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Old 29-07-2009, 03:05 PM
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Hi, i just wanted to ask if anyone knew more about these hooks, ive had them for a lot of years and know theyre old but i know nothing more about them except that they didnt come in a box or packet but wrapped in a small bit of what seems like greaseproof or waterproof paper and marked as 'Aero'

Ive taken a pic of them next to a Kamasan B175 #10 just for scale . I wont be tying on them just curious about them really.

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Old 29-07-2009, 03:32 PM
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brian, they look like some form of jig hook with the eye coming from the shank like that ??
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Old 29-07-2009, 04:08 PM
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Hi Bruce,
i see what you mean about them being like a jig hook.

Someone told me a while back that hardy's did a hook like these for parachute dries, basically an early version of a klinkhammer I have no idea though to be honest hopefully someone on here will know for sure

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Hi Bruce,
i see what you mean about them being like a jig hook.

Someone told me a while back that hardy's did a hook like these for parachute dries, basically an early version of a klinkhammer I have no idea though to be honest hopefully someone on here will know for sure

Brian.

brian ,


that would make sense about parachute dries having the post allready formed to wrap your hackle round ,and then having your line coming from directly above as opposed to from the front to keep the fly more upright in a way,also i wonder if they were used as dapping hooks ???
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These don't appear to be dapping hooks as the eye would be buried in the hackle which is wound along the shank rather than being wound parachute style. They are unlikely to be early parachute style hooks either as the gut would, when knotted to the eye cause the parachute effect to negate itself & try to turn the hackle to sit upright. Is it possible to see a pic of the original packaging ? My gut-feeling is that they may well be a jig-type hook.
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Brian i think they are dapping hooks for dapping the live fly or grasshopper ps however i maybe wrong.
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Never seen these before, interesting. They are not for parachute tying but the live bait idea hangs good with me. I will go with that.
Would be nice to know for definite though. That's why I like this forum so much, one never knows what will come up next.
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Greyduster is quite right about Hardy's doing a parachute hook, but that style had the eye at the front in the usual way and just a spur sticking up on which to wrap the hackle.
These would be on the go in the 1980s, if my memory serves me, but they were never a great success -- perhaps because the extra metal of the spur made them heavier than necessary.
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Old 08-09-2009, 08:06 PM
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The Hardy hook was called The Heritage Series. Can't say I have seen them around. I guess they were based on the original Alex Martin. There was certainly nothing wrong with them if I remember correctly, just never caught on (again). Every one now ties round a hair post rather than metal or hackle stalk. When I made them many years ago I used an office staple, cut it to an L shape & whipped one length on to the shank. The hackle was tied round the protruding piece. Snipped close in with pliers had the effect of splaying the tip of metal slightly, just enough to stop hackle slipping off,A drop of varnish wicked in to hackle gave added security.

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Partridge made the "Heritage series" of hooks, NOT Hardy.

The HE1 was re-designed by Terry Ruane & was the first in a series of either new or re-vamped hooks. I have some hidden away somewhere, they had a straight steel post that could be cut to length after tying the hackle, allowing it to be at differing heights from the body.

Hardy's used to make some salmon hooks "in house" laterly, but trout hooks were "farmed out" a long time before the "Heritage" hooks were even thought of.

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