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Old 15-09-2009, 12:52 PM
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Hi
I was interested to read threads about Hazel Copse Fishery in Rudgwick, near Horsham, as I live very near there. Does it allow individual day ticket anglers or is it only block booking? Is there a website?
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Old 15-09-2009, 01:02 PM
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Location: From Guildford take the A281 towards Horsham. Then after about 12 miles look out for the Rikkyo School on the right. After the school take the first turning on the left. Follow the lane to the end and turn left. The fishery is about 150 yards on the left and signposted Hazel Copse. Follow the track to the car park and lakes.

Address: Hazel Copse Trout Fishery, Banyards Lane, Rudgwick, Surrey, RH12 3AF

Contact: Just ask for Wilf.

Phone number 01403 822878

Fishery size: 3.5 acres made up of two well featured lakes of 2.25 and 1.25 acres. Maximum depth 14ft in the top lake. Water is relatively clear.

Season: Open all year.

Fishery records: Salmon 341b 12oz, rainbow trout 271b 14oz, brown trout 181b, golden trout 81b, Blue trout 61b.

Hazel Copse has a block salmon license. All you need is an ordinary Environmental Agency license.

Stocking: Regularly with various species when in season. Both salmon and brown trout are only stocked when they are in season.

Tuition: By arrangement

Corporate days: On application from Wilf. Barbecues can also be arranged for matches or group days out, again contact Wilf for further details.

Other facilities; W.C. and lodge with cooking facilities.

Note: The fishery is less than 20 miles from Gatwick Airport. Visitors from America have travelled to the fishery and caught salmon.

Tickets: Although stocked with salmon, rainbows and brown trout, the day ticket prices are very reasonable. The prices also include the block salmon licence.

Full day four fish limit £24 - Full day three fish limit £17 - Full day two fish limit £14 - Full day one fish limit £12

Catch and release is practised after daily limit is reached. However you must take your limit before starting catch and release.

Comment: This is a very friendly fishery that has shown many pioneering initiatives. It was one of the first fisheries to practice catch and release. The fishery was a pioneer in introducing salmon into still waters, opening up salmon fishing for everybody at a sensible price.

A Days Fishing at Hazel Copse

This part could easily have been given the title of "My best days fly fishing". However, in the morning as I travelled down to Hazel Copse, it appeared that my luck had really run out. As Virginia and I left our home in Ashford it was raining heavily but by the time we had reached Guildford it started to turn to snow. Further down the A281 the snow became heavier and was settling. Oncoming traffic was often thickly coated in snow. Fortunately by the time we reached Hazel Copse the snow had melted but it was very cold. Certainly not ideal conditions for fly fishing.

When we arrived Wilf and Monica invited us in to their bungalow for a warm up and cup of tea. Wilf gave me all the details that I needed for the first part of this feature. He then talked about his salmon and how they had at times been taken on dry flies in warmer weather. Evidentially march browns and black gnats have accounted for more than their fair share of salmon. The salmon had also been observed feeding on frogs and newts.

Wilf explained that there are closed seasons for both salmon and brown trout. He only stocks with these species when they are in season, consequently he had not been stocked recently with brown trout as they had been out of season. However when properly in season, he stocks with some very big brown trout. These, although often clearly visible, can be difficult to catch presenting a real challenge to his customers.

Virginia and I left to start fishing. It was still very cold. We walked round the fishery to select a spot in deep water on the larger rear lake. Wilf had told me that there was 14ft of water in this spot. As there could be salmon in this deep water, I set up with a 9ft AFTM 7 fly rod with a WF7 fast sinking line. My leader was maxima ultra green 81b whilst my fly was a damsel nymph that had been specially tied on a size 10 low water salmon iron by Lee Kitchen.

Once I had found how long it took for my fly to reach the bottom, I started to fish tweaking the fly slowly across the bottom. Nothing happened for the first quarter of an hour but I could see big fish moving in the corner of the first lake. Then I had a smash take and my heart nearly stopped with the excitement, as for a moment I thought that I had hit a salmon but, no such luck. It was a hard fighting three pound plus rainbow that had taken deep down.

I kept seeing signs of big fish moving on the first lake. I could no longer resist the challenge and moved down to the corner where all the disturbance was being created. There was no doubt about it they were salmon. The lake was much shallower so I changed over to an intermediate line of the same rating with the same strength leader and fly. I covered the fish but could not get a pull until I made a cast that landed just a few inches away from a cruising fish. As I pulled, it took immediately and powered off. This was no light weight rainbow and I could clearly see it was a big salmon as it cleared the water. The terrific power of the fish could not be described in words. I ran down the bank trying to keep up with it. However, as my wife constantly reminds me, I am overweight, not in the best physical condition and could not keep pace with the fish which had stripped off the full fly line leaving me playing it on the backing. Thankfully, it ran parallel with the bank and, running as fast as I could, I eventually gained line leaving out about 25 yards. I ran backwards and forwards for the next half an hour as the fished tore up and down the bank. I kept constant pressure on the fish and used every bit of playing skill that I had acquired from over 40 years angling experience to tire out the fish. Let's face it, an A.F.T.M. 7 fly rod is more of a casting tool than something for exerting pressure on a big fish. At the time, I would loved to have had a 2.51b test curve carp rod in my hand, that way I could have really applied some pressure but now was not the time to have such impure thoughts. After over half an hour, I could feel the fish tiring but that still did not stop it clearing the water several more times before it was eventually landed.

I did not have the heart to kill the fish. Instead, I left it in the jumbo landing net to revive, which it did surprisingly quickly. I had bought my big carp weighing sling and scales which meant the fish was quickly weighed, photographed and returned. It swam off in less than five minutes to give some other angler the thrill of his life. The weight? 281b 12oz. I was very pleased.

After a cup of tea with Wilf, I returned to fish on using the same tactics. Although I could see the odd salmon out there, I could not get a take. I fished on for another hour and was just about to change fly when I saw a salmon coming straight at me following my fly. I gave it one great pull and the salmon flew at the fly! It was on, and again no light weight. This time I put on maximum pressure from the start but still it put up a terrific fight. This fish was a real acrobat and spent a lot of time out of the water. At one stage it tried to smash me up by going directly between two islands in the middle but I managed using side-strain to turn the heavyweight fish before it reached the islands. Again, constant pressure over a long period of time had the desired effect and the fish tired. As I netted this second salmon, I realised that it was again over twenty pounds. It was given the same treatment as the first. It went 221b 8oz and again swam off to give another lucky angler a chance.

I did not have another take for about an hour and that turned out to be another nice rainbow. Over the next hour I constantly caught rainbows. Obviously I needed a change and moved to the opposite corner of the lake as I had seen some big fish activity in the area. I tried that spot to continue to catch a few more nice rainbows. I saw one of the rainbows move in front of a salmon that was chasing the fly - to take the damsel nymph! Naturally I continued to fish the spot. About three quarters of an hour later, a salmon hit the fly. This was a much smaller fish but still gave a good account of itself. It was only 6.51b.

Wilf then turned up and said that it was about time that I actually killed a fish. He thought that the fish would be absolutely ideal for Virginia and I to eat. It sounded sensible to me, so this fish was dispatched and kept. It did in fact eat exceptionally well.

We fished on, catching and releasing several more rainbows until it was time to leave, we had really enjoyed the day.

Conclusion: This is a terrific fishery offering quality fishing at affordable prices. It is the best chance for ordinary people like myself to catch a salmon at a sensible price. Not all can afford a top beat on a Scottish river when the fish are running.

I know the purist will argue that these are farm fish and not fresh run salmon but what do you expect for £24 a day. To me that is terrific value. I believe that this fishery is doing a real service to all anglers and not just the rich few.

Well done, Wllf and Monica, we will be back!
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Old 15-09-2009, 01:14 PM
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Thanks very much for all that info. I'll go and have a look. Its about 10 minutes from my home.
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Tony

definitely a day ticket water and a DEFINITE yes! for a fun day out.

My no means is it a pretty fishery say, like Frensham, but Wilf must feed his fish steriods or red bull as they are amazingly strong fish. He also has a high density of big fish though he asks his anglers to release the bigger fish.

He was also one of the first is not the first person to stock big salmon and his fishery record was a 40lb+ fish. He often has some huge browns in there too.

his more popular ticket is £15 for 1fish + C&R.

Have fun - this is one of my more favoured fisheries and a pity I now live in essex as I used to spend most of my weekends here when I lived in Guildford!


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We were down there last weekend......for the first time

There seem to be quite a lot of fish.....mostly around the 2lb mark....very good fighting fiish......

The owner says there are bigger ones there but haven't seen any yet !

It was hard work, managed 2 fish each in 5 hours......a few other takes but not many.....Everyone found it hard, so maybe it was just the day......

There were a lot caught the previous weekend when we went to check it out.....mostly buzzers and small montanas....

We will try it again as it is very cheap for 2 people and has C&R.....

Lovely setting....facilities a bit lacking....
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I fished there a few times many years ago too many to remember exactly when.

A cow in another field had stepped on Wilf's foot, and he promptly try to have a fight with it, a real old fashioned genuine character, plently of good belly laughs at this fishery.
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We were down there last weekend......for the first time

There seem to be quite a lot of fish.....mostly around the 2lb mark....very good fighting fiish......

The owner says there are bigger ones there but haven't seen any yet !

It was hard work, managed 2 fish each in 5 hours......a few other takes but not many.....Everyone found it hard, so maybe it was just the day......

There were a lot caught the previous weekend when we went to check it out.....mostly buzzers and small montanas....

We will try it again as it is very cheap for 2 people and has C&R.....

Lovely setting....facilities a bit lacking....




Dave, Hazelcopse is one of the few venues that still allows C&R in Summer as the waters have some deep areas - especially the lower lake.

The last time I was there I did struggle myself and only managed 4 for the morning but someone else was doing very well indeed and I eventually found out he was using a Di3 and counting it down for up to 20seconds with a Cats Whisker


Facilities!!???

A man only needs a bush and there is a basic 'thunder box' for the ladies..........what else do you need?



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It's an excellent "no frills" fishery. The salmon are long gone but there is the occassional suprise:

http://www.fishing-forum.info/trout-...b-rainbow.html

I've had a lot of fun using a floating line and long leader, allowing the buzzer, blood worm or nymph pattern to sink and then slow retrieve. Quite a lot of savage takes on the drop.

Don't be fooled by the big ornamental common & grass carp in both lakes!
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I have fished Hazel Copse about 4 times since i discovered it at the beginning of spring this year. Every time it has fished beautifully! I agree with some of the previous posts... these fish fight like demons! I have to also admit though i spent a few hours one evening chasing what i thought were some monstrous trout only to find out from Wilf that there were in fact grass carp! You really could have fooled me. some of those fish looked exactly like golden trout..
Its not the prettiest fishery in the world but it sure comes to the table with good hard fighting trout. Would suggest perhaps some boards put up encouraging anglers to practice good C & R techniques. Have seen a number of fish badly damaged and dying of infection due to being handled badly. Otherwise love the place!
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fished here this week or should I say spent an hour then left, water level down about 2 ft, fish landed with lice all over, unhooked in water but went belly up, no pumps on.
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