Grayling anglers

Is the European grayling tollerent of warm water?
Does the European grayling get along with trout well?
Is the grayling easily transplanted?

Thanks!

Bobby

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The trans plant may be easier as they have been spread out well over the years .

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Andy Wren
Winter grayling taking a year off !
Claret not just a great dubbing colour!

ACW

That is good to know.
We are having such a difficult time getting legislation to provide stream buffers needed to keep many rivers cool enough for trout in the heat of summer that it may be better to select a different fish better suited to the temperature range.
Tropical storm Irene devastated the streams here and the cleanup has been so destructive that many areas and for miles there is channelization with stream banks totally stripped of forest and a 30 yard +/- skinned stream banks. Trout will not fare well here for many years if ever again in some streams.

Bobby

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Bobby,

I am sure that there are some people here much better qualified than me to comment on this.
That said, my instincts (just by the seat of my pants really and no more), would say that Grayling are probably less tollerent of high water temperature than trout, with them being more naturally an arctic species. They do thrive in my part of the world (at about 51 degrees north) due to the fact that the rivers here typically are fed by the chalk aquifers which in turn produces water temperatures of about 51 degrees F year-round.



Aidan

Grayling do require cooler water than trout and are less tolerant of pollution, I'd have thought stocking a European species into an American stream would be fairly unethical though, and past lessons of stockings of non-native species into watercourses have resulted in somewhat unexpected outcomes. I'd stick with native salmonids.

Why not save the money from stocking and work on some base level habitat restoration? It'd surely result in a more sustainable fishery in the long term.

I am in general agreement regarding native species. The river system I am interested in is so loaded with invasive it is incredible. SMB, LMB, Walleye, Northern Pike, carp, yellow perch, rainbow trout, brown trout and a host of other fish I can't recall at the moment! It had Atlantic salmon, brook trout in the head waters, with striped bass, shad, herring, blue fish, and a host of other fish in the estuary reaches. Salmon have not done well here, brook trout are forever confined to the head waters and the rainbow trout fishing just took a big hit.

It is very interesting regarding the water temperature range of grayling. My Romanian friend said he has fished them in Eastern Europe rivers in water too warm for trout and here that means over 80F. I'll speak to him again. According to him the grayling he fished are a different from the arctic variety. Hay! What do I know? I am just looking at bad situation and trying to figure how we can make the best of it. I'll post some pictures of the damage here following Irene. I still can't believe it.

The farming community, red necks and town managers are impossible to work with here! We have been attempting to do serious habitat work for many years but they cut to the bank, dredge gravel when they get the chance and driver bulldozers and excavators all over the river every chance they get. After the storm our Governor suspended the Environmental regulations and told the boy just fix it! Even today huge trucks driver back and forth through the river with loads of rip rap to rebuild the road which was washed away for miles.

Bobby

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More about European grayling here : http://www.ripublication.com/mmnpv1/mmnp1002.pdf

and about spawning:
In my country (Romania) the maximum temperature interval is 18-24 Celsius degrees.
You will find it in the inferior part of the trout area and prefers clear and oxygenated water (pollution free).

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Lucian

That temperature range will not work here at all. 27 C. perhaps but 24 C. doesn't work. We have more gravel than one can immagine. The water is clean and free flowing, well oxygenated but we get anchor ice in winter and in some years water that is 26C. - 27C. for weeks with some cold water pools that hold the bulk of the trout until the weather breaks and we get a raise of water. Now that the storm has damaged what shade the river had the water temperature may rise higher than before the storm.

Thanks for all the replies. It doesn't appear to be a match at all.

Bobby

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