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Old 14-09-2009, 01:52 PM
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Anyone make there own furled leaders as one has got a couple of questions to ask, as im a newbie to them and have just sort my jig out ready for ago Very Happy

1: how much twist do you put on the first twist on each side. IE: whats the percentage of loss of lenth you should be looking for?

2: after the inital first twisting of the two lenths, do you then twist in the oppersite direction to complete the leader?

3. when going around the pegs with line do you start from the first wrap and work upwards or downwards or dont it matter

4. how do you connect a ring to the end of the furled leader

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Hi snaggit,everything you need to know is right here,this is how i make mine,

http://hatchesmagazine.com/page/may2006/185

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Hi snaggit,everything you need to know is right here,this is how i make mine,

http://hatchesmagazine.com/page/may2006/185

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ive got the various webpages bookmarked but none anwser my questionsand i know there area few guys on here that ty there own and commercially, thought they might be decent enough to reply gaz
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Gaz, everything you need is on the link, you use weights to spin the two lengths together, and then you get into the tricky part of making the loops.
It isn't something that can be explained very well on here, better to be taught by an expert, as I was.
Study the link, and it should all become clear.
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4. how do you connect a ring to the end of the furled leader
Cheers Gaz
After the first furl, just thread one end throught the ring & slide it to the tippet end of the leader, then do the final furl.
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well i finally got the hang of furling after a couple of tries however one was alittle clumsy with the loops and tying the knot, not going to use a baiting needle again atleast not without a latch as for the ring cant one just loop it, ie: put the tippet end through the ring, then open the loop and pull the butt end through apart from the little hic ups with the loops it should be a success on my next attemptGaz
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Here we go ...

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1: how much twist do you put on the first twist on each side. IE: whats the percentage of loss of lenth you should be looking for?

2: after the inital first twisting of the two lenths, do you then twist in the oppersite direction to complete the leader?

3. when going around the pegs with line do you start from the first wrap and work upwards or downwards or dont it matter

4. how do you connect a ring to the end of the furled leader
About 10% reduction in length seems to work well. I use 6/0 Uni thread for all mine and, as long as the leader is more than about 4', 10% works. Shorter, finer leaders are more tricky. However, I'm impatient and twist mine under reasonable tension using a handheld electric drill. I'm sure I could use a furling loop (?) and simple gravity to make the finer ones with no problem.

I join the two half sides on a central peg and then allow them to furl around each other by joining the fine ends to a moderate weight with a hook on the top (I use a plastic screw-cap jar with stones inside). I then allow it to twist under this weight - in the opposite direction to my drill twist - until it stops. A few minutes. Make sure to control the speed by slowing it if necessary.

Not sure I understand the third question. I tie on at the top peg, wrap (say) four times around the first (top) peg, then three times between the first and second pegs etc. I always wrap clockwise around all the pegs, not that I think it makes any difference ... just helps me count!

I don't use a ring at either end, but make tiny loops. Search for shorb loop and you'll see what can be done, though I usually make a small whipped loop instead. A tippet-end of just 6 turns total of 6/0 unithread is very strong and will regularly last a season.

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