How about designating a clear set of casting terms so we can all speak the same language. I found this list of terms and thought I would bring this up for your attention and comment so we all can follow and understand what is being said.

Bobby

Casting Terms

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Bobby , they work for me. The wording in some of them is a little awkward but on the whole if you used any of those terms while talking about casting I would know what you meant.

Frank

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Frank

Do you have a list of terms you use there in the UK?

In the many discussions we have had here lately often there is confusion or the re-labeling of terms and it has been confusing. If we had term definitions all agree to following the discussions would be easier and we would perhaps have a better outcome.

Thanks

Bobby

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"Tight lines from Vermont where the winters are long the fish are wild and the women are good looking."

I'm very happy if all members of the forum would use these casting terms.
I think this is an international forum and the casting terms aren't equal in all countries.

I agree, excellent work Bobby

Max

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Max,

In the last link of these three links in the last half of the page is a discussion of the continual motion used in the Oval Casting technique where there is no stop. It may be very similar in part to what you have been saying but I was able to relate to it better in the English explanation and I found that I cast this way myself!

Here is another list of terminology.
Terminology 1

This is yet another list of terms!
Glossary Of Fly Casting Terms - OzarkAnglers.Com Forum

This is the link Max and it discusses the continuous movement casting used in the oval cast style. It is found in the lower section of the page.

FFF Five Essentials

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The material is very interesting Bobby.
I cannot wait to read it.
Max

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Bobby, a good idea but those definitions don't do it for me, example

A better definition of Creep by David Lambert, copyright SmartCasts:
Unfortunately the glossary of casting terms from which that definition is taken is not available freely on the internet. David is a very well qualified instructor (FFF MCI) in the USA.


Frank does GAIA/APGAI publish definitions on its website?

Andrew

Andrew, GAIA does have a glossary of terms but I don't think that they are published publicly. Probably because there would be a massive public bun fight caused by not every one agreeing on what meant what, and who's definition is better , more accurate, more ..........

As I said in my first post I would understand the terms in the OPs link but some of them are not perfect , such as the definition of creep. I for one have seen creep that was far from slow and not all creep caused loss of tension it does however reduce the casting arc of the next cast.

For me a better definition of Creep would be "movement of the rod opposite to the direction of travel of the unfurling loop, before the line has fully straightened.


I have probably just opened the biggest can of worms ever, I will now don my flame retardant flack jacket and helmet.

Frank

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I prefer this definition.

Creep: moving the rod due to anticipation\in the direction of the next cast

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Good idea, Bobby.

As there are probably more of those lists and more that will pop up, would you pro's be so kind to come to a consensus on terminology and agree on our own FFF casting terminology list that can be used and referred to in all threads and debates? Maybe Admin can make it a sticky?

Initally that is what you suggested, Bobby, I only fear the good idea being drowned in endless discussion over a word...

Come on guys,make something out of this

Johan

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