Ciao all,
in small stream the fishnig isn't on the flies hatch but it is a fishing of movement, the look for of right plaes. If you agree, our fly cannot cast randomly but it has to cast in specific places called "hunting zones" with a flies that are different of the effimere imitations, because the trouts know when there is an hatch, and they know "the way of the meal" that often coincides with the veins of the flow.

Many years ago the "hunting" fly was a big and colorful fly, today have to be a fly smaller float well and haven't to be an imitation of the effimere because the trouts know that if there isn't hatch, there isn't presents the effimere

So, only when there is an hatch, the trouts move in these plases where is the way of the meal. In their little world, the trout know perfectly each little space and his life.

It can seem an insignificant element but often in small stream can to be very important because in these places all depends:

1) precision
2) mimicry
3) knowledge of place
4) right fly (different of effimere)

Let me know if yu agree or you fishing in other ways.

I hope you understand my bad english
Massimo
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I think even a novice will agree with the basic principles you espouse.

M

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Are you sure that the flies hunting of all fishermen are an imitation different the effimere ? Are you sure that they cast in right places ?
I'm not sure

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You can have the perfect fly, tied with excellent materials but if you do not present it in the right place and in the best possible way, it serves no purpose! Massimo Magliocco

If I'm interpreting this correctly, in the context of small stream fishing, you are advocating the use of suggestive patterns presented with an emphasis on the territorality of the residents, rather than the more conventional tactics on larger waters of matching the hatch in the recognised food lanes/feeding stations?
I would have thought that was pretty obvious to anyone with a passing interest in fishing small streams. Most of our UK brooks and becks exhibit minor unco-ordinated hatches of various different species. Rarely does the need arise to get too involved in hatch matching. A well presented suggestion of a terrestrial food source usually does the trick once basic reading of the water (identification of lies) has been grasped.

M

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Totally agree......for evidence one only has to spend a little time on highland burns and streams with the same fly all year round.

I look for understand, you tell us that in small stream there are same hatch like other waters ?

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You can have the perfect fly, tied with excellent materials but if you do not present it in the right place and in the best possible way, it serves no purpose! Massimo Magliocco

Hi Max!

Yes, however I believe there is more to it than what you list.
Small stream fish are forever vigilant and opportunistic. Hence you will see here on the Small Stream Thread fly tiers like Madjoni speak of flies he ties as having characteristics well suited to small stream dry fly fishing and may not appear to be a fly designed to imitate a specific insect.
Here in the USA we don't call it hunting. We call it searching often with attractor patterns such as the Royal Wulff for example. One can only prospect and cast to likley looking possitions and cover plenty of water. The odds of finding a willing trout increases with coverning likley spots. On water one knows well these spots are known to the angler and will be focused on.

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Bobby

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Hi Max,

In my opinion...the further north of the Scottish border the less important it is to match the hatch. As North Country Angler has already mentioned, the smaller burns/streams in the highlands of Scotland tend to have their own hatch of flies usually different from more central rivers. Fly choice at this point is rarely difficult to grasp...like NCA has again already mentioned..its less critical in matching the hatch but presenting something edible accurately. Whereas on the larger rivers its all about matching the hatch and not only presentation.

I spend 90% of my fishing days on these small rivers and find I only use a 2-3 dries over the course of the season....with a black or olive klinkhammer doing most of the catching.

you tell me that fishing in small stream with fast water is more easy than other rivers.... Ok I surrender.... I think that your small stream are very different than our

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You can have the perfect fly, tied with excellent materials but if you do not present it in the right place and in the best possible way, it serves no purpose! Massimo Magliocco

Max...I would say that small stream fishing is a totally different challenge than larger rivers. In terms of numbers....9 times out of ten I will catch more fish in smaller streams. Probably more to do with the smaller stream inhabitants almost constantly willing to take flies for a number of obvious reasons.

I will target larger rivers at prime times through the season for the bigger fish when they tend to become easier to spot nevermind catch.

Perhaps the smaller streams of Italy are different from ours here in the UK although I think northern Scotland has quite possibly some of the best fishing around.

Maybe someone with knowledge and experience in both countries could pitch in...?