I opened again this topic here, because can be interest know as you fishing them and in other situations that we find in small stream which I like to speak with you.

Pool with still water bordered of fast water. In the little red circle there is the trout and you are of the other side of the pool.

I jump the fast water pilling my long leader delaying the contact of the line with the fast water.










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small stream max!! if thats your small streams what are your rivers like??

Those photo are a particular area of the stream and seems a big river but it is small. The stream is the Nera in centre Italy, where a lot english fly fishermen, to come to fishing.

Those are other photo are the Nera river in centre Italy, and you can see that it is small.

But how do you fishing them ?











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I find the problem with piling is that you need to wait a bit so the current takes away the loose leader before any fish will strike and its therefore easier to wiggle cast multiple times to the same spot. In those currents its not as if the fish are overly particular. But frankly I'm not happy yet and wanted to try one of your leader ideas.

max if i was lucky enough to have those streams near me i would not do much fishing just take in all the natural beauty, and maybe a few casts at some wiley trout , with cane rod and silk line of course, slow and easy bit like me!!!

Ok, I explain better. If I use a overhead cast, the line and the leader arrive in water togheter. When the line touch the fast water, it will drag immediately down.

Therefore, if you cast use Slowed down Angular cast (read here in our website: Slowed down Angular cast - Fly Fishing Masters), you ahve a good solution.

This cast allow of pile leader and delay the drag of fly, but if you want to have a good result, you must cast with a long and calibrate leader. If you want we can speak it.

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Hello Max, interesting problem you've presented us with. I've had a read through the description of the cast you would use on your website, (some interesting stuff on there) from what I've read I gather your approach is to throw a high angled cast which lacks the necessary speed to fully turn over the leader.. Would your approach change given a head-wind or side-wind in said scenario? I'd be tempted to try a dump cast. Shoot the line in as usual, maybe aiming a little higher, then dropping the rod tip very quickly as the forward cast unrolls producing many small curves in the cast and leader and hopefully enough drag-free fishing to tempt the trout. I offer it as an alternative because it allows you to better maintain line-speed on delivery making issues such and wind less of a problem.


All the best,
Stephen.

Is this along similar lines?



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The dynamics the cast is very simple but very effective.
You can see more in our italian website, it is in italian but you can understand of the immages.

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Sorry: Il Lancio Angolato e Angolato Rallentato

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Hi richard, the cast isn't like this, to see:Il Lancio Angolato e Angolato Rallentato

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Thanks R,

I use that cast whenever necessary! I couldn't sketch (Draw) it though!

Such an easy cast to make! Throw a loop in the line to give a little more time for a drag-less drift of the dry fly.