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Old 14-01-2011, 01:32 PM
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Ciao, this morning I went to Terenzio and I tried the new silk line.

I designed these lines with a long taper that give them a delicate pose in surface water

Infact we called this new lines "small stream silk lines".

Trerenzio produce DT3 and DT4 but if anyone need a different weight, to ask him.
Color will be orange dark and will be natural silk and artificial silk and prices is like than other "old" silk lines.

Terenzio begin to production tomorrow and, to have them, pass 60 days because when make they, the silk line are wet with some liquids and it need wait they became dry.

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Terenzio in his laboratory

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my try

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Terenzio try

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drying new lines

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Old 14-01-2011, 01:48 PM
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Thanks for showing us the new Terenzio Silk lines! They look great, how well do the rods perform with the new taper? what about very short line outside the tip ring, will it still work the rod enough to present the fly, just a meter or so from your feet, using a short rod? How much difference will the new taper make on a small stream?

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Old 14-01-2011, 02:19 PM
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Thanks for showing us the new Terenzio Silk lines! They look great, how well do the rods perform with the new taper? what about very short line outside the tip ring, will it still work the rod enough to present the fly, just a meter or so from your feet, using a short rod? How much difference will the new taper make on a small stream?

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Ciao Mostyn. Do you think have any problem to cast the new lines ?

I don't think this, you teach me that a taper more long has only need of to be understand it.
Anyway, for me the best result to cast the new lines, it will be with rods good butt. I explain, the good butt have to accumulate the right energy without to move too the rod but this means that the rod aren't soft too.
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Ciao Mostyn. Do you think have any problem to cast the new lines ?

I don't think this, you teach me that a taper more long has only need of to be understand it.
Anyway, for me the best result to cast the new lines, it will be with rods good butt. I explain, the good butt have to accumulate the right energy without to move too the rod but this means that the rod aren't soft too.
Not at all. Just thought you and Terenzio were testing the newly designed lines! So thought I'd enquire how the new lines performed in certain fishing situations! I'm sure these new silk lines are going to be the line to have, for small stream fishing! I like soft action cane rods, or carbon rods.

The reputation of the Terenzio Silk Lines, are well respected in the UK.

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Old 14-01-2011, 10:36 PM
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European fly fishermen and those in the Uk have a very different way about approaching the sport than we do in the USA. Silk lines and ferruled leaders are two examples of this.
My buddies and I tried the ferruled leaders when they were first presented on the market by Orvis. It didn't take more than a few casts to realize the leader through a spray of water which put down rising trout even at night! One fellow fished them for about a month and finally came to the same conclusion as I did, cut it off his line and never wet back! He tied on one of my leader tapers instead and we continue using these leaders to this day.

Now here we have the silk lines! Please explain to me how and why anyone would slip back to that material when lines by RIO and Cortland are available? I have been using the new RIO #3 DT-F line with the extended fine long trout taper and couldn't ask for a better small stream or midge line! Why do you boys want to fish with a material like silk?

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European fly fishermen and those in the Uk have a very different way about approaching the sport than we do in the USA. Silk lines and ferruled leaders are two examples of this.
My buddies and I tried the ferruled leaders when they were first presented on the market by Orvis. It didn't take more than a few casts to realize the leader through a spray of water which put down rising trout even at night! One fellow fished them for about a month and finally came to the same conclusion as I did, cut it off his line and never wet back! He tied on one of my leader tapers instead and we continue using these leaders to this day.

Now here we have the silk lines! Please explain to me how and why anyone would slip back to that material when lines by RIO and Cortland are available? I have been using the new RIO #3 DT-F line with the extended fine long trout taper and couldn't ask for a better small stream or midge line! Why do you boys want to fish with a material like silk?

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well bobby the modern lines are all very good but there is nothing better than to hear and see a silk line swish through the rings on a split cane rod and land on the water straight and true as our forebears did in the past. looked after they will last a lifetime, even handed down to another generation who will value the true essence of dry fly fishing. kind regards flyfishy
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there are some practical reasons too. My boo rods cast better and lovely with a silk.I wont go for modern lines with boo. There is no memory in silk which is good for hook ups, diameter is low than in a "plastic" line. I havent used silk on a graphite rod yet, but it occurred to me that it may has an advantage if I put a #7 wf silk for lake fishing . If you dont grease the silk line it will act as an intermediate line and I suspect that such silk could be better for this application. With no memory the distance hookups will be managed better and with lower diameter but same weight it could be cast easier in the wind?
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well bobby the modern lines are all very good but there is nothing better than to hear and see a silk line swish through the rings on a split cane rod and land on the water straight and true as our forebears did in the past. looked after they will last a lifetime, even handed down to another generation who will value the true essence of dry fly fishing. kind regards flyfishy
So, much of the interest is related to tradition! OK, I understand that and can appreciate it. My recollection of them, though I saw very few, was of a sticky mess, not good at all and I have been wondering what this was all about.

Apparently things have changed if they last a long time! I go through a SA or Cortland DT-F line in 3 - 4 years or perhaps sooner if it is used on a near daily basis. My big water #5 line gets beat hard and I can go through them in 2-3 years.

I am interested in hearing, perhaps from max italy what it is in the production of these lines that makes them so good and how they must be cared for by the fisherman.

Bobby

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So, much of the interest is related to tradition! OK, I understand that and can appreciate it. My recollection of them, though I saw very few, was of a sticky mess, not good at all and I have been wondering what this was all about.

Apparently things have changed if they last a long time! I go through a SA or Cortland DT-F line in 3 - 4 years or perhaps sooner if it is used on a near daily basis. My big water #5 line gets beat hard and I can go through them in 2-3 years.

I am interested in hearing, perhaps from max italy what it is in the production of these lines that makes them so good and how they must be cared for by the fisherman.

Bobby
hello bobby i am sure max will be happy to do this, bearing in mind their lines are about £100 i think taking care of them is a must and they get better with use not like modern lines, there will be some on this forum using a 10 20 30 and more years old silk line still in good supple condition.
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Hi All.

I have got several of Terenzio's lines and like them a lot, the pure silk doesn't really need that much looking after, I have a fly line drier, but I tend to pull the as much of the flyline off the reel that I have used and coil it in large coils and hang it over the handle on the window to leave it dry, re grease it when dry and way to go, I did think it wouldn't float as well as they do, but they are excellent.
Works really well on Cane or on my carbon rods, as flyfish61 said the more you use them the batter they are, another thing that is great with them is they tend to land on the water and lift off better as they are thinner than a equal plastic line, I do use both types of line and like them both, if you are ever in my neck of the woods you can try one of mine to see what you think.
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