I am a lover of fly fishing and lure fishing and would love to catch a migratory fish, eg a sea trout and a salmon.

Unfortunately, living in south yorkshire, I will have to travel at least 100 miles to have a chance of catching one. What seems to puzzle me is that the river Tyne, wear and Tees contain migratory fish and people catch them in there, when not so many years ago, they were too polluted to hold sea trout and salmon. I wonder how long it will be before us frustrated fly fishers in South Yorkshire, can have more than a snowball's chance in hell of catching a sea trout or a salmon from a more local yorkshire river ?

I suppose we have no chance really cos the Humber estuary is a sespit, open sewer, containing a chemical cocktail that would kill yer even if yer sniffed the Humber water. What with the Trent, Don, Aire and Calder waters which are no more than open sewers, for any industry to dump what ever it likes into the rivers who often get away with small derisory fines.

How come, they managed to clean up the rivers on the Tyne and North East rivers, which now hold good runs of both salmon and sea trout and can't manage it in the Yorkshire rivers ? (the Esk being the exception) It's so flippin frustrating. How long will we have to wait to be able to see good runs of migratory fish and stand a great chance of catching sea trout and salmon, in our more local rivers like the Wharfe, Nidd, Ure, Don etc ? It stinks and I don't just mean the river water. I suppose, I will only have a chance of catching a sea trout or salmon in my dreams rather than at Kirk Hammerton on the Nidd. It's ****.

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Andrea

You are quite mistaken. Four days ago there were hundreds of salmon in a single pool on the Ouse waiting for a rise in water and the only way they got there was up the Humber Estuary. These fish are heading back into the Yorkshire rivers in ever increasing numbers, I have seen several Salmon in the Ure this year and there have already been many caught. The rebirth of the Salmon into the Ure and other rivers has been an open secret for some years. Last year there was a Trout and Salmon article covering it. I have personally seen salmon in the Rye and have seen photos of sea trout that have been caught there....


Dont despair....


Andy


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The only reason they don't migrate up the Don system is the huge number of impassable weirs.

Also, the last time I fished on the annual Ure grayling "members fishing day" run by the S&TA on the Ure, 3 anglers caught salmon on grayling bugs by accident.

PS - it is really, really worth noting that the huge cleanup of the Humber estuary (which occurred round about the same time the hatchery was started at Kielder) is a (the?) major reason for the big boosts to the Tyne salmon run.

Loads of salmon are coming up The Trent they have be seen going up Hazelford Weir in recent months.

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Wow sorry for my ignorance, this has got to be great, but I live a stone's throw from the middle river don in kilnhurst and have never ever seen anything jumping the broken weir, ever. I still reserve judgement on the yorkshir rivers, cos well its time we did get a good run of sea trout and salmon. Hope somone catches a sea trout or salmon at kilnhurst or mexborough to prove it but erm can't see it myself. I walked down the river last week, past the sewage works and the smell was nausiating, was so bad it made me feel physically sick and it was from the stuff they were pumping into the river. I have no confidence what so ever in the environment agency. As a friend said to me, "Envoronment agency pher, just tell us owt to keep us quiet, nowhere near enough is being done." I don't like reading that circular that comes around when yer licence is due, it's all slapping themselves on the back and a load of bull about what they have done. As my friend says, "they should do a lot more, stop talking and give us more action."

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How do they get up those massive weirs at Linton etc ? They look impassable

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Paul G is quite correct in highlighting the clean-up of the River Tyne estuary in the late 1980’s as the main reason for the massive increase in its salmon run.

The Tyne was a very successful commercial salmon fishery as well as a good rod fishery up till the 1930’s. By the 1950’s & 60’s, however, there were regular nil catches from the whole system according to archive figures held by the EA. The sewage effluent from the rapidly expanding Tyneside conurbation (that was discharged directly into the river) was the problem, added to by the fact that dredging had all but eliminated the natural flushing effect of tides and spates. The effluent would linger turning the whole estaury into an open sewer.

The good old ‘Northumbrian Water Authority’ are the ones that fixed it: interceptor pipes laid on either side of the river form Newburn to the coast collecting all the effluent that had previously flowed straight into the estuary. Not sure whether such a scheme would be commercially viable on the Humber, but I have heard stories of sea trout on the Swale, so migratory fish are obviously now getting through.

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All sewage works smell - it's the nature of what we send down to them !! The treated effluent they are able to discharge will be close to if not better than the quality of the river water that's already there. Don't confuse a smelly treatment process and sludge by-product with poor quality effluent discharges !!!!

All sewage has to be biologically treated before discharged, doesn't matter whether it's going in to a river, estuary or straight in to the sea so the days of raw sewage pouring in to our fisheries are thankfully long gone (and I can personally vouch for that including the Humber and it's tributaries !)

If you refer to Linton lnr York, there has been a fish pass alongside the weir for years.

As an extra to what has already been said, I have pals who have caught Salmon deliberately at Nottingham on the Trent, also Willington. Black Flying C with a silver blade seemed to do the trick. I have seen videos of Salmon taking the small wier at Spondon with some form of migratory fish seen as far upstream as Chatsworth last winter. The Dove also has a good run in september/october, the same time as the Derwent ( Derbyshire ) a good pal of mine at the EA spoke of nearly 40 taking the wier at Norbury on the Dove in an hour and a 15lb fish electro netted as far up as Hartington. All these rivers flow into the Humber.