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Old 25-07-2010, 11:02 AM
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Thinking of going on this river this week. looking for any information on the fishing, flies, pools, salmon/seatrout runs

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More correctly called the Dwyfawr, the smaller Dwyfach joins her bigger brother just above the tide near Llanystymdwy. River Dwyfor Lower Section


Salmon in both have been declared 'at risk' by EA Wales, who at least can spell the river correctly unlike the local anglers.

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[QUOTE=Ephemerella;760540]More correctly called the Dwyfawr, the smaller Dwyfach joins her bigger brother just above the tide near Llanystymdwy. River Dwyfor Lower Section


actually Dwyfawr, Dwyfor, Dwyfach are all names referring to our two rivers near to and by Llanystumdwy. Ask a local whether the name Dwyfawr or Dwyfor is correct, and you will I guarantee no one will agree. One of the commonest explanations is that Dwy is two in Welsh - fawr is large and fach is small, mor is the sea - so the explanation becomes that there are two rivers - one large, one smaller and when they join they become the two seas.
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More correctly called the Dwyfawr, the smaller Dwyfach joins her bigger brother just above the tide near Llanystymdwy. River Dwyfor Lower Section


Salmon in both have been declared 'at risk' by EA Wales, who at least can spell the river correctly unlike the local anglers.

2004 ~ 31
2005 ~ 11
2006 ~ 14
2007 ~ 9
2008 ~ 18
2009 ~ 3

Tickets from the Ironmongery in Criccieth High St. Game Fishing
I remember an article in the excellent but long since defunct International Fly Fisher in which I think the editor Brian Harries took a nice salmon on the river with a double hander. I have a complete set so I'll perhaps check it out.
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Sewinbasher - that would be nice as I never saw that publication.

Spy1 (now Gwilym on this forum) wrote fondly of the Dwyfawr in his autobiography: The Angle of the Cast
He grew up there, so he, mostly, spells Dwyfawr correctly.

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Then south Caernarvonshire, long time constituency of Liberal Prime Minister David Lloyd-George, in recent times re-named Dwyfor (two-seas): quite logical as the region encompases the Lleyn peninsula. Dwyfor County Council mistakenly put up Dwyfor signs on the road bridges thus perpetuating the (now escallating) error. True locals - few and far between in this region now very much geared to the tourist industry.

My family owned land in the area, we still have bankside land in Dolbenmaen and upper reaches Cwm-Pennant. The deeds and boundary maps clearly state Dwyfawr.
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You're right Ephemerella, I lose count of the times I see "Conway" on here as opposed to the correct spelling "Conwy". Irks doesn't it? Maybe us Welsh are just over sensitive.

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Ask a local whether the name Dwyfawr or Dwyfor is correct, and you will I guarantee no one will agree.
And you get irked Stuart!

Norway is both Norge and Noreg in Norwegian (depending on WHICH Norwegian). Easier to just call it Norway!

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And you get irked Stuart!

Norway is both Norge and Noreg in Norwegian (depending on WHICH Norwegian). Easier to just call it Norway!

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This could get complex, I thought it more which 'book' language and/or region. Let's not go there.


Touché Stuart I shall allways use Conwy in future.
Just don't pick on me if I slip up and use Dovey sometimes instead of Dyfi.


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Touché Stuart I shall allways use Conwy in future.
Just don't pick on me if I slip up and use Dovey sometimes instead of Dyfi.

Agreed, and I won't even mention "allways"
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Spy1 (now Gwilym on this forum) wrote fondly of the Dwyfawr in his autobiography: The Angle of the Cast
He grew up there, so he, mostly, spells Dwyfawr correctly.

yes,i also have a copy of this fantastic book and yes your right he calls it the dwyfawr but he also calls it the dwyfor.

'From the age of 12 years he was a regular on the lower reaches of the River Dwyfor , extracting Seatrout from the then prolific runs on this spate river both during the day with various baits progressing to night time flyfishing.'
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