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Old 08-02-2010, 07:58 PM
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Hi everyone

Thanks for alerting me to this post, Colin. I was on the original committee that was tasked with providing a "standard", so if it is okay, I'll jump in with a few comments here:

The standards were approved in September 2004 by AFTTA. It was a bit of a surprise that they were approved when they were because initially the idea was to form an outline of an idea to standardize salmon/spey rods. The suggestions were presented to Bruce Richards, who then presented them to the AFFTA board. The AFFTA board then surprised everyone by approving it!

There are certainly a couple of flaws with this standard. Firstly, the standard was suggested before there was such a thing as a skagit line, so these were not included. Secondly, the standard is based more on the US anglers idea of what loads a rod well. Most European casters prefer a lighter line weight than the standard suggests. Also, the 40ft head length for shooting heads is too long for modern heads.

There is a (sort of) a pdf file on the RIO web site here that outlines this a touch more.

With regard to the grain weight being different for different head lengths of line, that is easy. With short head lines, like a Scandinavian shooting head, most of the casting power is going to come off the tip of the rod with a short casting stroke - this will produce tight, sweet loops and effortless casts. With a long belly line you need a very long casting stroke, and the rod has to load much deeper into the butt to be able to carry the long lengths of line. You could never cast a 75' head length of line just off the tip of the rod. As a result, the longer belly lines have more weight to get that flex deeper into the rod.

As I said, the standard is not right, and I honestly don't think the standard can ever be right, but then nor is the single handed standard these days, and, as someone pointed out, rods don't even have a standard, so there can never be a true match!

Cheers for now
Simon
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Old 09-02-2010, 08:00 AM
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Simon,

Thank you very much for clarifying the situation so clearly. Matching the rod to the line and to the style of casting does make Spey casting interesting! I’m looking forward to experimenting with my various lines and rods even more now.

All the best for 2010

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