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Old 13-06-2011, 09:54 AM
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Anglers get that shrinking feeling as Scots salmon fail to measure up - Scotsman.com
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Old 13-06-2011, 10:17 AM
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Any one get that feeling, the Scientists and journalists don't know **** about salmon.... global warming my a**e......

If you remove most of the prey (shrimp, krill, lance, herring, mackerel etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc from the sea so humans can eat them as food or turn it into fish meal, you get less and smaller predators (salmon).

Salmon will swim to get where they feel is the best feeding, if that includes an extra few days or even more swim to account for temperature change caused by the so called 'global warming' they will simply do it.

Bad science and bad reporting often go together!!
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Old 13-06-2011, 12:51 PM
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Stonepark - I think you could have condensed this down and just stated ' global warming my a**e...... '. Maybe you are referring to Climate change anyway as there is no mention of global warming in the article.
As to the reporting – I don’t personally see anything in there that can warrant this journalist as being ‘ bad ‘ as you put it. The writer has quoted the results of the study along with a scientists point of view. You can’t criticize reporting if all the reporter is doing is publishing a studies findings and quote the opinions of the persons involved. I see nothing in there that would make me think this is bad reporting.
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0ne of the salmon experts, Professor Chris Todd, professor of
marine ecology at St Andrews University, said it was not
just the number of salmon that was a concern but their quality.
He said that by monitoring an un-named major Scottish
river for the past 17 years
, he had found that the
weight of the average grilse had fallen from 2.4kg to 1.7kg
and that its length had shortened from 59 to 54 cm.


Pretty handy having an un-named major river to play with - for 17 years in fact - and only notice now.

I'd like to see the full result not emotive spin put on selected parts of what will be valuable SALSEA project results by an ecologist hell bent on blaming 'climate change' instead of, for example: poor or inefective EU fishery management, although there has been warming in parts of the Noth Atlantic feeding grounds.

The English Environment Agency monitor pretty much the same thing in grilse and trapped in 'key' rivers. I'll find some data but I think grilse still average 8 to 8.2 lb in west and east coast rivers (e.g. Dee at Chester and the Tyne).

4 sea winter class salmon were always rare, and 5 sea winter would be 70 or 80 lb class. Not exactly common in previous years. The west Greenland net fishery decimated this class and numbers are only just begining to improve after the buy-outs.

Prof Todd said he suspected that climate change was the cause
of the shrinking salmon. "To find salmon that have now spent three,
four and five winters at sea - the very big fish - is rare.
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Shrinking salmon?
Is a good title though!
This year appears to be the year of the big spring fish though!
Mebbes we should wait till grilse run is happening en masse before we pass comment!?
anyways, does it really matter to c/r anglers if grilse is a pound or two lighter than historic average?
they aint being killed to eat!!
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I've noticed salmon generally getting bigger in the last few years personally. And climate change is not a load of b*****cks either, there is ample scientific proof, so lets please not have that argument here!
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