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now been out three times trout fishing at £20 a day but still not caught any fish at all ,ive been using a floating line , and a buzzer
I,am new at this type of fishing,,but its making think i should go back into match fishing,,where i know i,ll catch fish,
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You gotta stick to it and the fish will come.

If you are fishing stillwaters then if others are catching then ask what they are using, I have never had anyone refuse to tell me. More importantly watch others fish; if someone is catching when others aren't it maybe how they are retreiving the fly. Try spotting in insects around and in the water as well.

One of the most valueable sources is the guy you hand your money over to, ask if any flies are working better than others.

You will catch eventually... Took me 13months to catch, though I was 12 at the time and it was my Dads money but if do persist you will realise fly fishing is a lot more than just catching fish.

scottybaws is right, it's not just about catching fish but i see you delema, and it is frustrating, people who fish the bung method have good success but those who don't can have equally good success so it's what method you are willing to stick with, generally fish will be in the first 3 to 6ft of water looking up, unless its very bright or cold then they're about 3ft off the bottom, the space between your droppers makes a difference too, no more than 2ft apart should be plenty and 2 droppers inc point fly or more if u can handle them, bloodworms stay on the point and the others vary, if you have white breathers on the buzzer i would keep it on the top dropper, a dawl bach does great on the point most times but u can put it on the top dropper to imitate a rising bug and at a slow fig 8 retrieve with a little twitch once in a while, also, as there are all sorts of patterns for the buzzer, it would be best to ask the fishery you're on which particular buzzer pattern works best there, cause if someone says he/she was useing a black buzzer, was it ribbed, plain, with breathers, red or orange cheaks etc, etc, etc, and what sizesee what i mean you can read as much as you like about buzzer fishing anywhere on the web so get to it i like it when there is a slight side wind and i let the wind do the work, this creates a steady movement and also a slight rise towards the end of the drift, don't forget that if you want to fish them at 3ft you need 6ft before your first fly is attatched as while they're drifting round they get lifted slightly, others on here will have there ways too with buzzer fishing, try a search on here for past posts, good luck

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Oh, I remember starting out! T'was a struggle for me too. Still is sometimes, so I'm no expert, but I generally manage to snag a trout or two.

Stillwaters, stocked, and buzzers on a floating line is a good start. Buzzers, being fished slow/static, I reckon are good for beginners since it minimises the need for repeated casting.

How's your casting? An issue I had at the beginning was I was using short leaders to facilitate lousy casting. Distance casting usually isn't needed to catch, but finding the right length of leader is. If, like me, you're starting with a short leader and one fly, try upping the leader length a bit and sticking with one fly to avoid tangles. Generally, a 12 foot leader is considered a minimum on stillwaters. With slow buzzer fishing, you can find that even with this length your buzzer will sink too deep. As I'm sure you've read here, fish look up, not down. If your buzzer is below the fish, you're not going to catch.

You can deal with that by avoiding the varnished/epoxy/superglue buzzers which sink like a stone and instead try the herl variety. You can also try a copolymer or a nylon leader rather than fluorocarbon which will all help slow the sinking rate of the buzzer on a very slow retrieve. This is especially useful if your short casting over relatively shallow water.

As your casting gets better, and you can reach deeper water further from the bank, you can add on another buzzer on a dropper and effectively fish two depths at the same time.

That's the other thing - make sure you retrieve very slowly. Just pull the line in fast enough to keep in touch with the fly.

It'll come...

its a tough one when you feel you are paying for a limited time or a fish limit,

traditionally the money for a fishing permit goes to the land owner for maintainance of the land accessed and catching, quality of the fish, going at the best time etc was the fishers domain,

the conceptual introduction of value for money, paying for a given time or number of fish is one i cant get my head around, as soon as you enhance the chances of catching you have assisted fishing,

on the other hand you do feel dumb paying 20 quid to go assisted fishing and still blank

Hi Nowflyin
If your near the midlands? your more than welcome to join me on a day out.
I will help you out as much as i can.

Cheers Craig

IM ONLY USING ONE BUZZER oops sorry caps, im on a small still water ALTON MANOR, in derbyshire its about four to five foot deep,
i have been using varnished buzzers ,but other anglers are using them too ,they have been catching,

It might be that your problem it that you are getting takes but not seeing them, not every buzzer take gives you a distinct pull on the line. Keep as direct contact with your fly as possible and strike at absolutely any movement of the line that seems odd.

Also use at least two flies if the rules permit as you will then be searching at two different depths and can also swap colours and sizes around.

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If other people are catching and your not, go and have a chat with them, tell them your new to the sport.

Its not all down to the fly

Check what leader strength their using

Length of leader as well

And if possible have a look at their fly there are many different patterns of Black buzzers out there, as there are damsel & a host of other patterns.

Also July / August are two of the least productive months, roll on September & early October.

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Yes, the cooler weather in September will bring them back on the feed harder during the day.
Try a goldhead damsel or similar on the point.
I rarely fail to get a take with one of these on a floating line.
You might also find them easier to cast with as the extra bit weight from the gold bead helps turn your leader over nice and straight.