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Old 25-07-2010, 08:55 PM
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this may be a silly question to ask. could some-one explain the difference between the 2. the reason i ask is i recently purchased a fly rod for pike fishing and was sold a fly line to match i noticed before i paid that it said spey on the line and asked the retailer if this makes a difference to casting was told it didnt and was just the type of line as its a 10 weight had it out today and cant cast 10 feet of it. could someone enlighten me to the difference between the 2
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difference to casting was told it didnt and was just the type of line as its a 10 weight had it out today and cant cast 10 feet of it. could someone enlighten me to the difference between the 2
Spey lines, in genaral, tend to have longer heads than standard weight forwards, often up to 60 to 80 feet of head for line rating of #10
This is because, as name implies, they are used for spey casting, where a heck of a lot more line is outside tip ring to cast, than standard overhead casting.
Single handed, over head casting, would be better suited with a standard, or indeed shorter head weight forward line.
Reason you cant cast it far is probably because you havent enough line out to load the #10 weight rod, try putting out a good deal more before you try to shoot the line, might help.
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Old 25-07-2010, 10:15 PM
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If a retailer has sold you a #10 spey line for a pike rod you should go back and rip his head off, totally unsuitable, designed for entirely different purposes, and totally unprofessional. A #10 line is not the same as another #10 line just because they both say #10 on the box, in this case, they're staggeringly different.

A #10 pike line is short, 25'-30' typically, as you're not casting a long way, is for a shortish rod, and has heavy front taper for turning over big flies.

The spey line is much much longer, 55' to 90' typically, and is designed for spey ( roll ) casting using long rods with most of the weight at the rear, with an average to small taper at the front for normal/small flies. I'm not surprised you're struggling to cast it, with 10' out on some spey lines that's still the forward taper!

Which retailer was this? It really is shockingingly unprofessional, either they've deliberately sold you a pup, or they have no idea what they're doing, either way people should know.

God this unprofessional **** annoys me, they have no right selling stuff if they don't understand what they're selling!

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i agree a spey line i belive is designed for a 2 handed salmon/seatrout rod and not a single handed trout/pike rod its gonna feel like your casting a heavy arsley bomb take it back and demand a refund and pick out a #10 pike/saltwater line, it should say it on the box

i personally wouldnt use the same retaler that sold you that line to jus thought id throw that in there to

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Old 26-07-2010, 05:28 PM
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ive phoned the retailer today about this and they will change or refund the line as long as i have the box which i dont have as my wife kindly disposed of it for me.made the point that the line was no good to me at all and that a had asked the question on the spey line before i paid for it but they are refusing to budge so before i hung up the phoned i made sure i said what i had to

wont be shopping there again

i phoned another retailer this evening and the have 10# mill ends for 7 quid so think i will purchase 1 for now until i get more funds.


thanks for the info on the line and the difference between the 2. think in future i will ask on here before i buy anything im not sure on as you all seem smart cookies

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Old 26-07-2010, 07:47 PM
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Well, that's simply shocking behaviour, please name and shame, that retailer doesn't deserve a penny of anybody elses money. I'd have been sacked for both of those things, miselling and poor customer service, can't believe how badly you've been treated!
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Well, that's simply shocking behaviour, please name and shame, that retailer doesn't deserve a penny of anybody elses money. I'd have been sacked for both of those things, miselling and poor customer service, can't believe how badly you've been treated!
i wont name and shame i dont believe in doing that as angry as i am. i will try again tomorrow with a phone call see what that brings.im hoping that they will come round and replace or refund it could just be a case of inexperience on the retailers part im hoping they will see sense will keep an update.
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Always worth mentioning that this thread is on the forum and that you'll say who they are if they don't do the decent thing.
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Always worth mentioning that this thread is on the forum and that you'll say who they are if they don't do the decent thing.
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More like a retaliatory strike
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