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Old 23-07-2010, 05:07 PM
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Default Customs duty - or more accurately VAT

A salutory lesson!! I had a broken Abel (old) no. 2 reel - $25 to repair whatever was wrong - great - I thought I just had to pay the postage to Abel - wrong!! Abel has sent the reel back dully repaired and charged me the above amount for postage - but there is another charge I certainly was not aware of - VAT is charged on the value Abel put on the reel - in this case they considered it was worth $200 for their insurance purposes if it got lost in the post - so it cost an extra £43 with charges from Parcelforce as well. Lesson - if you send your $800 Abel reel to be repaired - Abel will charge only $25 - it's the VAT that will get you. Thank God Sage can be repaired in this country! I knew there were customs duty and VAT on new goods from abroad, but repairs - they get you every way.
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Old 23-07-2010, 05:30 PM
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You shouldn't have been charged. If you document that its being sent for repairs under warranty and they return it that way, you have no tax or duty liability.
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I second the above. Shouldn't be charged anything extra on it if the item was for repair. Technically you should have already paid all taxes etc when you first bought the item. They can't charge you tax on the item again just because it had to go outside the country for repair.
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Should not have been charged because when they send it back to you they should have put on the customs form that the reel being sent back to you had just been repaired under warranty.
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I had a similar VAT bill with a T&T rod that was sent for repair - a quick phone call to the tax office was all that was needed for them to see the error of their ways.
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I agree with all the previous posters. There is no VAT or import duty to pay. Contact the Revenue and Customs office at the Parcel Post Depot where the reel was imported, advise them that it was a repair and ask them to refund any tax you have paid. You will probably require confirmation from Abel that it was a repair.
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All of the above responses ignore the fact that there is a formal procedure defined by HM Revenus & Customs and which you should have followed before you sent the reel back to Abel for repair.

To quote from a reply I received from HMRC before I sent my reels back to Waterworks for repair (sections in red highlighted by me as these are most relevant):

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Thank you for your email regarding the temporary export to the United States of your fly fishing reel for repair under warranty.

As the goods are your own property or that of your family, you may be eligible to use a “non-commercial authorisation for Outward Processing Relief”. When faulty goods are repaired free of charge under a guarantee or warranty, you can claim total relief from import duty and VAT. You must provide evidence to support the claim for example a guarantee or warranty document, or contractual evidence that the repair was free of all charges. If the exported goods are replaced, VAT is due on the full customs value, whether or not the replacement goods are supplied free of charge.

If you are exporting the goods using the postal service then you only need obtain and complete a certificate of posting (C&E 132) as proof of export. These are normally available at most post offices or can be downloaded from our website at HM Revenue & Customs: Home Page .

For re-importation purposes you should ask the repairer to complete the Customs declaration stating ‘OPR goods – under warranty’. On arrival in the UK the goods may be intercepted by us and you will be sent a “Notice of arrival of goods” (C160) that you should complete and return with any other documents required to the address stated thereon. Any charges due will then be notified to you and will need to be accounted for before the goods are finally delivered back to you.

You should note that this authorisation is only applicable if the goods are “Community goods” in that all customs formalities were completed and customs charges were correctly accounted for when the reel was originally imported.

If you feel that the parcel has not been charged correctly you may ask for a review, and will then need to forward the original red and white customs Charge label and the original Customs declaration (both of which will be attached to the parcel), the C&E 132, and evidence that the import charges on the original import were paid, to the Customs office at the Postal Depot – their address will be on their charge label.
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Phone the tax office and you will get your money back.
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Normally the manufacturer sends a zero cost invoice (separate from the value declared for insurance purposes), which you can use as proof that you were not charged for repair (which DOES attract duty/vat if you were).
Even though you may be refunded this VAT (after several months), the Parcelforce fee will not..
The ZC invoice should be attached to the outside of the parcel so they can inspect it.
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With certainty, the US Government is looking at imposing a VAT type tax. Well, why not ... thanks to "OweBama" we're only $1.4 TRILLION DOLLARS in the hole this year.

Then we're up for all the above Fall-D-roll. Not 'if,' but 'when.'
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