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Old 11-07-2010, 01:11 PM
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hi guys,

just joined the forum. been read here for a while.leared a lot. im fly fishing for just over a month. im only fishing rivers at the moment. i have a 7/8 line and reel and rod.

ive just been given a 5/6 rod.

can i use the 7/8 line and reel with the 5/6 rod?

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hi guys,

just joined the forum. been read here for a while.leared a lot. im fly fishing for just over a month. im only fishing rivers at the moment. i have a 7/8 line and reel and rod.

ive just been given a 5/6 rod.

can i use the 7/8 line and reel with the 5/6 rod?

cheers,

Keith
Hi if your rod is rated for a 5/6 line then use a 5/6 line with.A 7/8 line with a 5/6 rated rod will be completly off balance it.
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:41 PM
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how you mean it will off balance it? im totlly new to fly fishing, been doing a lot of research, and everyone says it will off balance it. but i dont know what that means?

could you break the rod putting bigger line on?

how will affect the rod?

what could happen?

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Try it and see!
It just feels wrong.

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Try it and see!
It just feels wrong.

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billy is there any chance i could break the rod? thats my main concern at the moment. im just after ordering a proper line and reel for it.
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Trouble is Keith no one is going to be able to give a diffenitive answer,bit like licking a toaster might be the best experience ever. But I'm not going to try it.

Rod may break, but then it might not, best to use a bit of caution and use the rod for it's intended purpose for now.

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Old 11-07-2010, 02:25 PM
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cheers lads for all the replies.

just have to wait till the proper reel and line come. im like a child with a new toy, itching to use it.. im only fishing rivers so what line would you choose? #5 or #6 weight? the rod is 5/6. its a svangsta rod. anyone ever here of them? i can really find much out about it on net.

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You won't break the rod, so trying it won't hurt.

In theory, there is a standard classification system (AFTMA) that manufacturers are supposed to adhere to when they rate fly lines. It is based on the weight of first 30' of line. When rod manufacurers rate a rod, they are supposed to rate it based on the standard fly line weights.

In practice, fly rods are rated by the manufacturers to cast a certain weight line at an intended normal fishing distance. For instance, an 8' 4 wt is almost certainly going to be a small stream trout rod for relatively light flies and close in fishing. As such, a manufacurer may rate the rod a 4, but design it to throw 20' of a 4 wt line since you'll not often have that much line out on a smal stream. If they designed it for a full 30' of line and you're only casting 15-20' of line, the rod won't load fully and will feel stiff and lifeless. On the other end of the spectrum, a 9' 9 wt is most likely a saltwater searching rod. Guys using that rod are probably banging out a full line all day in search of stripers and blues on the beach. Those rods are designed to throw a long line so they are rated a 9 wt line, but load best with 45-50' of a 9 wt line. If they designed them with 30' in mind, the long line guys would say that the rod was underpowered which is a critical sin for a saltwater rod.

One difficulty is when you don't know what the rod was designed for. A 9' 6 wt can be an all around rod, it can be a big stream trout rod, or it can be a light saltwater rod. If the manufacturer doesn't tell you, then you could be in for a surprise if you wanted a nice relaxed all arounder and got an agressive light saltwater rod. I've come across it more than a few times building rods when the blank looks great on paper but when you have it in your hand it doesn't match what the customer wanted. It wasn't designed for the same applications.

Fly rods will actually cast a fairly wide range of overall weight. I'm going to make some assumptions on your rod, but I think I'll be fairly close. It is rated a 5-6 wt rod so it is going to fish a 6 wt line a little closer or a 5 wt line a little further. The standard line weight for those lines is 140 and 160 grains as per AFTMA. So already your rod is 'rated' for a range of line weights. With a 7/8 wt line, you'll be in a similar grain weight with about 15-20' of line out.

Then consider that your 5/6 should have no problems with 15-45' of a 6 wt line. That means you can actually cast a range of weight from a bit over 100 grains to pushing 200 grains! Wouldn't you know, 200 grains is halfway between the standard 7 and 8 wt lines.

The consequences of using heavier or lighter lines is that the rod will feel different. It will load deeper with more weight and won't cast it as far or be as responsive in doing it. With lighter lines a rod might feel lifeless until you're throwing 60'.

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Rick, thanks for that really detailed explanation. that really clears thing up for me. and thanks again for going to the trouble of writing that up for me. i really appreciate the help lads. I'm just starting out with one of my friends. we both haven't a clue really, and don't know anyone else that is into fly fishing. forums like this really help the like of me starting out. I've really learned so much from just reading this forum over the last month.

cheers lads,

Keith

P.S if anyone needs help with anything to do with golf equipment or golf swings give me a shout. be more than happy to help.
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keith,

whereabouts are you located? I'm sure there is someone around you that can help. I'm in East Yorks if you're around this way.

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