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Old 07-06-2010, 04:53 PM
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I just finished reading the book “The new Scientific Angling – Trout and Ultraviolet Vision” by Reed F. Curry about 1 hr ago. What Reed has set in motion will be the next sweeping "thing" in sport fishing. How it is applied will vary with the understanding of those who market all sorts of product and poor *******s like me will be inundated, bombarded really with advertising. We anglers must understand the UV vision of trout.

If you do not understand the UV vision of trout, the UVR or lack of UVR of hatching insects or bait fish and how to select flies with the appropriate UVR for the fishing situation you are going to be lost in the next few years. Forget the need for Latin! You can survive with out Latin nicely but to not understand the UV vision of trout will be crippling to you.

Yesterday I didn’t need to know much about a trout’s UV vision; now that I have read this book there is no turning back. As a fly tier I must now understand the UVR of the bugs I am imitating so as to select materials of the correct UVR in addition to the correct color in VIS when I tie flies!

Rain has turned my home river to mud. As I crossed over the bridge this morning I didn’t just see the river, or look for a rise or the mayflies which normally hatch this week, no not at all! I was astutely aware of the sun's angle of the dangle and the color of the water. My mind immediately began to make calculations weighing the merit of possible fly selection based on UVR for the conditions.

For the love of sweet Jesus, I long for the simple days when at 14 years old my fly box held a cherished half dozen crudely constructed dry flies I tied myself; a Dark Hendrickson, Dark Coachman with brown hackle tail, an Adams, a Lt. Cahill, Blue Dun and a Black Ant I designed using black ostrich instead of fur which allowed it to float better. That was it! The initial thrill I got from fly fishing with those few flies was the best! Like the use of some drugs which demand larger and larger doses to achiever the original high, fly fishing has demanded more and more of me to come close to that first high. My life has become more complex not less. Some times ignorance and old wives tales comfort a weary confused mind with simple answers. Applying the knowledge Reed has provided of the trout's UV vision we can now understand how trout see our flies, our leaders, our lines and even our favorite fishing vest in UV. This knowledge helps eliminate the need for old wives tales.
This work shatters many old beliefs yet reinforcing others. Reed’s work has stirred my craving to understand all I can about our sport and the almighty trout.

This book isn't groundbreaking it is earthshaking.

Way to go Reed!

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Reed has several posts on this Forum about his specialist subject.

Uv ?

His username: 'overmywaders', if you want to use the search function.
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So on what date do trout stop taking 'normal' flies?
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TC Kingsmill-Moore.............. nuff said.
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So on what date do trout stop taking 'normal' flies?


Oooh! Ooh!..... I know this one.... read it somewhere in the bible.... "Beware the angle of the dangle, my children. Forsake thine Read Arsed Green Peter and praise be to thine Pearly Bibio with a Glo-Brite No.6 tag"
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Reed has several posts on this Forum about his specialist subject.

Uv ?

His username: 'overmywaders', if you want to use the search function.
I don’t recall ever seeing posts from Overmywaders here!

Having read Reed’s book AND that thread all I can say is.
Some in that thread reminded me of those who believed the world was flat and those who could not grasp the lethal qualities of a fast light weight projectile for military and hunting application.

I am a serious big river night fly fisherman and have been since the mid 1960’s. I now have a better understanding of what I am doing correctly which has made me successful. The reinforcement I receive from the knowledge presented in this book is very helpful to me. It opens a door to assist my experimentation in night fly fishing, fly tying and fly design.

For those who fish in sunlight exclusively this book may not offer much useful information. They can continue to get by fishing what they already know or think they know. For me and others like me this book is a gift! I learned plenty. I would not allow the negativity in that thread to dissuade me from reading the book.

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I am a serious big river night fly fisherman and have been since the mid 1960’s. I now have a better understanding of what I am doing correctly which has made me successful.
Is uv light source any different at night? or am i a cynic? Surely uvr is lesser at night, and refractive light higher? just a thought
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Nearly every material natural or otherwise some UV radiation either as a function of relecting or partially absorbing UV light. In fact stuff that glows under UV light (flourescence) is probably "low or non-UV" since the UV light shone on it is absorbed and re-emitted at a wavelength that we humans can see. This flourescence may indeed be useful on our lures it certainly isn't natural, which is why it may stand out to the fish... but it's not a magic bullet.

Everything is already UV to a degree or other pheasant tail and hares ear have a "UV shade" and we can't see how much. We don't have eyes like trout and we can't simulate what they see anyway. There is no magical scientific approach adding the right amount of UV, nor is UV any more special than the proportion of shade in the visual spectrum humans share with trout.
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