hello folks,i have just recently started fishing with buzzers,i have only been fishing with the single fly,been reading alot and hearing the boys at the fishery talking about using the 2 or 3 flies,i have never fished a team of flies and dont know how to attach the droppers,could any one show me a pic of how it is done or talk me through it please,and has any one any suggestions of which flies to team up,any advice would b grateful,thanks

Gary,

There are a few ways to tie droppers, by far the easiest and most common is the water knot, have a look at the Knots section at the top of the forum. In terms of what flys in a team, it depends where and what you are fishing for.
Have a look through the following thread, some good information in there that may help.
What leader length for buzzers?

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Hi Gary

Go to my link below and scroll down the thread for some tips on knots.

A two-turn water knot will do for attaching your dropper length.

If you are used to fishing one fly, move up to two and get used to that before moving to three, the jump from one to three may be too much initially, tangles and much cursing & swearing may ensue.

How long a leader are you using with the one fly?

If it is say 12ft for example, attach your dropper between 6 and 8ft from the fly line.

As for patterns, try two buzzers, or try a Cruncher, Diawl Bach or Hare's Ear on the dropper with a Buzzer on the point for example.

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there is another sinilar knot i use where you lay both pieces of leader next to each other,create loop with both^loop towards you)then stick two fingers in and spin twice pulling everything through,before moitening there should be a figure of eight,then tighten

With buzzers you should have the dropper going up the line to force the fly away from the main line.
For casting you will need to open your loops up to prevent tangling

Chris

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This site is pretty good for the knotsused in fly fishing. May help a bit

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The dropper length must be the one that is facing down the line towards the point fly. To do otherwise will result in breakages on the take. Don't worry if the dropper twists around the leader because the trout won't.

I was always taught that using this tag end to attach the dropper ends up putting too much stress on the knot and would result in a lot of breakages? As such i have never tried it so was interested to know from people that do if they experience lost fish.

I am guessing it helps to kick the fly away from the mainline.

Dan

Hi Dan,
I can't remember the last time I was broken at the dropper knot, and I tie all my droppers this way. The benefits of it being pushed away from the mainline far outweigh any issues with strength reduction. After all, they're only trout and they're unlikely to be able to break more than 5lb line very easily

Chris

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If you put a knot in a leader it weakens it. Why do you think the advice is to keep knots to a minimum; to use the most reliable knots and to unpick windknots as soon as they form? The answer is, of course, that they weaken the most important link between the angler and the fly. So, what starts off as a nice length of 8lb leader ends up at about 5lb once you put two or three knots in it. The lower you start the weaker it gets. So, trout won't break 5lb leaders on the take? Well I guess if you're fishing wets down & across for half pound browns on a small stream you'll be fairly safe tying your droppers facing upwards. If you're fishing buzzers for 3-5lb rainbows on a big reservoir you'll spend a lot of time re-building leaders let alone the hooks you are going to lose stuck into fish. When you're fishing buzzers, wet flies or lures and you get a pull you automatically pull back - it's a natural reaction - and that is when the damage is done. I don't get many break-offs, but I do get one or two per season as does virtually every angler I speak to on the bank.

Read any of the advice pages in the various magazines about leader set-ups and without exception they all say that droppers must face downwards. There's a reason for that and it's all about reducing breakages.

My basic leader set-up for about 80% of my stillwater fishing is 18 feet of straight-through 8lb fluorocarbon with two 9" droppers 6' apart tied on with 3 turn water knots. Fly to leader knot is a 5 turn tucked half blood. When I've finished for the day the leader is bundled up and burned.