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Old 16-05-2010, 11:37 AM
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This is a long post, but stay with me...

I know that I’m probably opening myself up for a lot of abuse here, but if there is one anchorman who as a result of reading this is tempted to give it a try, then it’s worth the abuse.

Grafham is fishing it’s nuts off at the moment and as a result all of the boats are getting booked on a regular basis. This is a good thing for both the fishery and the anglers who frequent it.

In my opinion Grafham is probably the best loch-style water in the country. Usually by early June the fish are spread across the whole of the reservoir and long drifts right across the middle can produce fantastic bags of quality fish.

During the early part of the season the fish tend to shoal more tightly and hug the edges. Herein lays the problem.

I fished Grafham on Saturday and conditions were perfect for a day’s drifting. There have been a lot of good fish lying off the west bank of the reservoir from Savages Creek, past the Nature Reserve and all the way into Valley Creek. On Saturday the 10mph breeze was blowing mainly from the North allowing a nice long drift all the way along the west bank over the highest concentration of fish sitting approximately 70-80 yards off the shore.
When we got out on the water at about 9:30am there were already 2 boats anchored up on this line but far enough into Valley Creek to still be able to get a good drift starting from the Nature Reserve. As we carried out the first drift a couple of 3-man boats motored out from the lodge and dropped in behind us. The dreaded sound of anchor chains running over the gunnels (why do they have to lower them that way?) was carried down to us on the breeze.

After picking up a few nice fish on the first drift we headed back upwind to start another, but were basically unable to do so due to the slalom course of anchored boats that would have to be negotiated. We attempted a couple of small drifts but were unable to get more than about 50 yards without having to adjust our position with the motor so as not to encroach too near to the static boats.

By this time there was a full ring of anchored boats about 80 yards off the bank all the way from the Nature Reserve to the Lodge. Impossible!

We motored up to Savages but there was the same problem there. A lot of boats were on the drift but were constantly balked by just a couple of anchored boats positioned directly over the highest concentration of fish.

We didn’t feel like joining in the crush and so motored down to Gaynes Cove. The wind was coming more from the west here and, joy of joys, just 4 or 5 boats about 100 yards off the southern shore, but ALL on the drift. We joined the back of the line and shared a few hours of top quality sport straight lining buzzers over the front of drifting boat, along with the others who were sharing the bay.

Unfortunately though, by about 4:30pm a couple of the anchor brigade had joined us and dropped the hook half way along the bay, directly in line with the drift we were all on. Not long after this we gave up and went in.

I’ve got a few observations to make.

Some people will say that these people have payed their money and are perfectly entitled to anchor wherever they want. The same people would probably moan about a bank angler at a small water fishery, hogging the only spot on the pond where there are any fish. To my mind this is the same thing; those that dropped the hook at Grafham on Saturday were preventing ANYONE ELSE from having a try for those fish.

Now I realise that some of them probably don’t fully appreciate the effect of them dropping the hook is having on other anglers, but one of the rules attached to every Grafham boat is ‘Don’t anchor in another boats drift’.

Now in this situation where the fish are only along a certain line, another boat’s drift should include the water they need to drift over to get to where they are. Ie. You shouldn’t prevent them from be able to carry out the same drift again and, an important point here, prevent ANYONE ELSE from carrying out that drift, because this is the beauty of fishing from a drifting boat - It gives EVERYONE an equal chance at the fish.

Now these observations only apply to those days when the wind is light enough to allow comfortable drifting. If it’s blowing a Hooley, I’ve no problem with anglers anchoring to keep out of the wind; after all, we do this for pleasure don’t we?

Another point is that if you consistently fish from a drifting boat you WILL catch more fish as the season progresses, as the fish spread out into the middle and, will probably get more pleasure from it. At least you’ll get to see more of the water, rather than just the 50 sq yards you are anchored in.

Now I know I’m going to get a lot of stick for this post. Words like ‘elitist’ and 'holier than thou' will probably be banded about, but this is not what I’m trying to be. It’s often difficult to put over exactly what you mean when communicating by email or on a Forum, but all I’m trying to say is just GIVE IT A GO. You can buy a drogue at any Anglian Water fishery for little more than the cost of a spool of nylon and a few flies.

I appreciate that anglers new to fishing over the front of a drifting boat can initially struggle, but I guarantee that if you persevere you will become a better angler and will reap greater rewards in the future.

Even if you don't take to it, at least you'll have more of an appreciation of what the boys on the drogues are trying to achieve, and perhaps be more mindful of where you drop the hook?

If there is anyone reading this who fishes Grafham from a boat, but who has only ever anchored and wouldn’t know where to start with fishing the drift. If you want to try something new and fish on the drogue, then drop me a PM and I will gladly spend a day with you on Grafham and teach you the ins and outs of loch-style fishing.

Now I can’t say fairer than that, can I?

Dons tin hat crouches in trench...



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Old 16-05-2010, 11:48 AM
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That seems more than fair, especially as the rules clearly state not to do it.

No arguments here!
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Old 16-05-2010, 01:11 PM
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If there is anyone reading this who fishes Grafham from a boat, but who has only ever anchored and wouldn’t know where to start with fishing the drift. If you want to try something new and fish on the drogue, then drop me a PM and I will gladly spend a day with you on Grafham and teach you the ins and outs of loch-style fishing.
Speaking as someone who has had the pleasure of sharing the odd day with Graham floating on Grafham I can honestly say he really does know what he is talking about when it comes to Loch style fishing and I have personally learnt loads from him.

This time of year can be very frustrating trying to get a good drift on Grafham and Rutland, let’s hope the weather changes soon and the water temperature raises enough to make the fish move out into more open water.

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I have to say that i will always anchor wherever i want,getting blown all over the place is not my idea of fun
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Old 16-05-2010, 01:40 PM
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Thumbs down FW, in the PNW the practice you've discribed is called "Low Holeing."

Perfect way to start a 'verbal altercation' on one of our rivers. Amazes me when I'm fly fishing (cast, cast, step down) and some 'gear guy' will walk in and park himself on a rock half way down the run. If you know the guy/he knows you, he'll pull back when you get to him and let you fish through.

Don't know the guy .... he'll just stand in the same damned place and spend the day. The fact that he hasn't hooked anything in a 400 yard stretch of river seems to go right over his head. Answer to 'why just stand on one rock?'

"I'm waiting for moving fish."

Sweet Jesus, how dumb can you get?

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Old 16-05-2010, 02:57 PM
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I think a lot of this just comes down to fishing etiquette whether from bank or boat, it's all the same.

I'd hate to p*ss someone off because I've been inconsiderate and I reckon most others feel the same but clearly not all.

Side Note: I tried to book a boat on saturday but they were all taken.
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Old 16-05-2010, 03:15 PM
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I couldn't agree more Graham.
Last year on draycote 2 lads watched me take 3 fish in 150yds on the dries on the drouge,they then motored over and dropped the spade in right on that line.
I had the last laugh as i driffted past them for the next few hours still taking fish whilst watching them scratch their heads.
From What i have seen over the years boat etiquette has gone out of the window.
This will upset a few! But if i had my way i would take all the anchors out of the boats on the larger reserviors.
At the end of the day everybody pays for a ticket so each to their own.

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Old 16-05-2010, 03:20 PM
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I have to say that i will always anchor wherever i want,getting blown all over the place is not my idea of fun
Seems like you are a perfect candidate for a lesson in drifting then! You don't get blown all over the place anyway, you get blown in a line, covering fish as you go, then returning to repeat if it proved productive. However if anchoring is your preference, fine, but have respect for drifting boats, same as you should have respect for bank anglers - you're not supposed to anchor up in someone else's drift anyway, just have a look around and see what other boats are up to before you drop anchor, its not asking much, in fact its the rules on many places.

Just on the etiquette point, this isn't just a problem with drifting. The other week I'd been drifting on Blithfield and we stopped to fish at anchor for a while, fishing buzzers. Another boat cheerily motored past right close in front of us, right through the area we were actually fishing. Could easily have gone round the back but was either too thick to think of it or couldn't be bothered. We noticed they did it to someone else later too.
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Since I learned to use a drogue properly drifting across Grafham is a joy even when you're not catching lots of fish. Its easy to forgot your woes and that you are just drifting across the public water supply. Seems like a very generous offer to teach others how to enjoy it.

I've not been to Grafham yet this year even though the fishing might be great - the fun is diminished if its hard to relax on a drift when you have to manouevre round anchored boats. I am way too polite to get close to any other boats.

I only started fishing in July last year and things never really seemed crowded by then - I could drift for hours without bothering anybody else (or the fish, sometimes). Its a big enough place. Heres to the day that the fish are spread out a bit - and I would recommend anyone to try the drogue. It really isn't that hard.
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Thanks for the interesting post. I am a newby to boat fishing and whilst i have wanted to drift fish every time i have been out which is 6-7 times since last july it has been too windy to drift
i think there has to be a responsibilty to on the owner of the water to mention the etiquette required of a days boat fishing. i know in those times i've been afloat it hasn't be mentioned, staying a good distance from bank angles and other boats has but nothing in terms of drifting and anchoring. Similarly i live by the coast and surf 2-3 time weekly. i see a similar thing in terms of people learning to surf and the right of way on waves. Sometimes this is done through ignorance but often deliberatley (too much testoterone in surfing ) i think there should be more advice/instruction given to people who are hiring equipment and buying boards etc for the first time.

Would love to take you up on that offer of drifting advice but sadly live no where near the reservoirs you mention. If your ever in the north devon somerset region i would bite your arm off. cheers jon
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