Hi All

This has been bugging me for ages, so hoping someone can help me on here

For the last countless years about every 10th cast i have to 'un-spin' my dropper or dropers from the leader line. This is a pain in the a55 'cus as soon as I unspin them the stored energy in the line retwists them all....

IS there any way to stop this. My droppers are formed using a knot simular to the water knot, except i create 2 double loops and feed the line through twice. (Cutting the bottom waste line away) I have tried tying a simple knot afterwards to make the dropped stay at 90d but still no joy.... any ideas or iam i just being daft???

Cheers
Chris

Keep your droppers short, and try these, they DO work.
S.
Rollers

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Never heard of these before???

how do the effect, presentation, bouyancy, casting, fly behavious on retreaval etc etc??

When fishing droppers I ensure that the dropper is no longer than the width of my hand.
I use a 2 turn water knot, and since doing this I have a lot less tangles. I did consider using all sorts of rings etc, as in the other post, but why over-complicate things?
Regards,
Gary

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A 2 turn water knot is all that I use... to make it 'stand-out' just half hitch it and pull the dropper up.... again, as scuba says, not too long.. dont listen to the 12-14 inch brigade ... alternatively, if allowed (not in comps) why not attach a small snap swivel to the end of your butt piece? then tie your leader... works a treat on rivers in turbulent water.

Do you fish a traditional dry fly with up wings? Some patterns behave like propellers and twist excessively. If so you might try diffferent flies...

I think droppers tangling around the leader is just a fact of life. To minimise tangles I use a cast with just one dropper which is kept as short as possible and which I attach to a small metal leader ring. The tippet and the point fly are attached to the same ring.

This arrangement allows you to change the dropper more easily just use a new piece of line to attach to the ring once the dropper line is too short to change the fly.

I still get the odd tangled dropper, probably due to a badly timed cast, but this method cuts down on time spent untangling line and I spend more time fishing.

If I've run out of leaders with rings I form the dropper using either three turn water knots or double grinner knots, both give reasonable presentation.

Captain

Thanks for this - i tend to use between 4-8 inches dependant on fly and presentation requirements (as with most male measurements its probably only 3 inchs )

I like the swivel idea, i shall try this when i go up to the Eden in a few months time.

Fly wise it has been happening with most patterns - i shall make sure my droppers are shorter and see what happens