Im not against the use of indicators firstly,but I remember when they started years ago,small buzzers under them were great, especially through the colder months when things were slower,but more of late,the use of lures under them is slowly becoming the norm,which I dont like to see.
As I say im not against them and see the use of them for some and I have used them myself to my detrement as I get bored with it and prefer to have my hands moving, rather than stand in a coma.

I know they are both flies(buzzers and lures) but a lure under the indicator is a bit of an abomanation to me,especially when the story of it was too deep hooked is always used when the big fish come to the scales,never the smaller fish.

Im thinking is this really fly fishing,dont mind a buzzer under an indicator, but a lure?

I know its an indicator type thread,but wanted this off my chest,as Im considering a rule of buzzer only ,no lures under indicators.Due to damage to fish when striking,some double handed strikes,amazing,and deep hooked fish excuse,and to me unsporting.Buzzers i dont mind.

Id like feelings and views on this please.

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Can't really see the point. Since it's a lure and needs to be moving why the need for a bung?................a definate no no from bn..................birdsnest

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kevin, its your fishery mate and if you dont want that on your fishery then ban it ,wont be liked by a lot no doubt but the fishery is yours to run how you see fit for the good and condition of your stock ... the only consideration is how it may affect your income ,...if it is a consideration .......

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well ban it then at your fisheryinstead of coming on here to stir it up as i am sure you are only too aware where this thread will end upnot the first time you have been involved in the bung debate

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Theres a few places down here Kev that have added the 'No Lures Under Bungs' rule to their list, some have even banned bungs altogether.....

I tend to use the Lure under bung during the slower months, but it certainly isnt my first choice method....

Which, after a few trips on smallwaters over the last few weeks, when arriving at 4,5, 6pm, and dries are the obvious choice of weapon, people do still arrive and go for the lure under the bung method right away....Is it all a confidence thing...... "I caught this way last time out, so I'll start on this", as you say, its becoming the first choice for a lot of anglers, and the 'Norm'.

When using the lure/bung method, i've certainly never experienced a deeply hooked fish, no matter how small or big the fish is, IMO, the depth of hooking is all down to the individual allowing the bung to dissapear, and waiting for it all to go tight, which is wrong IMO.

As for "is it fishing?", if it's within the fishery rules, then I suppose it is.

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Has it been discussed peekaboo?sorry I debate not for argument and its a genuine question.

it is not about indicators, but the use of a lure under it.

if you dont like the thread and its not to your liking,nobody is asking you to stay on it.

Cheers Carl this is the kind of reply Im looking for as ideas and to help view the future of it at the fishery.

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you know where it will go though

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Whatever you do mate, ban the bung or not, you could even give the customer the flies, exact replicas of what you caught on the day before, or what you caught on 10mins ago.....

People will still go out with a Cat, Nomad or Blob under the bung, if this is what they have confidence in, or used last time out and caught.

Why not introduce the "Nymphs under the Bung Only" rule, as a temporary ruling, and see what happens....?

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I can't ever see the time when I would want to catch a fish that badly,that I would ever want to use a bung with anything under it.But thats just me.....if other guys want to use it and its not breaking any rules.......well,sign o' the times, its all getting a bit boring TBH.

I would rather go home with no fish, if i want fish for my dinner that badly then i shall stop at asda or morrisons, or sainsburys, or tesco (think you are getting the idea) on my way home and i shall use my hard earned pennies to buy some trout!

Its not for me!

Kev