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Old 25-03-2010, 10:35 AM
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I have been using Polyleaders for the past few seasons and had no problems till yesterday. I discovered that the "poly bit" is laid on over a mono core and with the leader I was using yesterday the poly bit ran up the core causing the leader to look like an elongated pigs tail. Even after a number of attempt at stretching/ smoothing the problem persisted. Has anybody else had this experience?
My other question is: what is the difference between braided and furled leaders and what are their advantages over poly.
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I've encounted similar problems with polyleaders, but only withe the floaters & intermediates . . . . . .
For information on furled leaders I'd send a personal message to mrtrout on this forum. He'll give you good advice on the subject.

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Old 25-03-2010, 11:02 AM
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Only ever used a poly leader for wet fly fishing for river browns and had ok results but if i remember correctly it did coil quite a bit
Never used a furled leader or braided one but have heard they are excelent for presentation and if bought from correct dealer will last you a long time as there are good one availiable but also bad ones
Heres one that may interest you,
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I've encounted similar problems with polyleaders, but only withe the floaters & intermediates . . . . . .
For information on furled leaders I'd send a personal message to mrtrout on this forum. He'll give you good advice on the subject.

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not only that but he will sell you some he makes himself and they are superbly made cheap to
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I have not experienced Mr Trouts fulred leaders and cant comment on them .. but no one has had a bad word to say about them.

I have tried quite a few comercialy produced types from europe and the states, and found turn over not great as I believe the taper doesnt continue through to the tip. And also because i was in the mind set of ' as long as possible', which is missguided.
I have settled on 3.5' as the ideal length for my stream work.
What you do want to look for is a really limp leader, and try and get one constructed of silk or unithread or similar, Ones made of fishing line are too stiff and pants in my humble opinion.
My are bought from Rod Dibble who is also a FORUM MEMBER and supplies another forum members shop. His material is 14/0 unithread. and the taper is great.
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I have the Rod Dibble ones and will soon be getting some from Mr Trout, I'll do a compare when I do

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Custom Furles can make and supply a variety of silk/tying thread leaders. As the link name suggests he may be able to make a leader to your specification (custom). AlynFisher on this forum.
I've got three styles of his leaders, Standard dry fly, Tip indicator and hi viz Tenkara. They perform admirably.

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it is rather simple to make furled leaders yourself and then you can experiment to give a range of leaders for you to try,
- they cost probably 10-20p ( in materials) to make each one.
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I have been using Polyleaders for the past few seasons and had no problems till yesterday. I discovered that the "poly bit" is laid on over a mono core and with the leader I was using yesterday the poly bit ran up the core causing the leader to look like an elongated pigs tail. Even after a number of attempt at stretching/ smoothing the problem persisted. Has anybody else had this experience?
Once this happens it's game over. Chuck it and replace with a furled leader.
I can echo other forum members who have recommended Ron Dibble's leaders (available through Phil at Spider Plus). To my mind the advantages that they offer over poly leaders in terms of delicacy and turnover are huge, especially when fishing light.

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I've been making my own for two years now and the ability to set your own taper is a godsend. You can bias the taper forward heavy to punch over bigger flies or make them up straight through for a more delicate presentation.

I've used Rodney Dibble's on two lines, one for seatrout and one for stillwater rainbows. Lovely straight-through taper, really limp, can be treated to float or sink depending on what line you'll use them with. The furled leader has been one of those real revelations for me from using these forums.
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