hello all, was on the net the other day and came across a method for attaching fly line to cast i used to use when i first started fishing many many years ago. don't know what the name for this is, basically the fly line has a small knot and is attached to the loop of the cast, i found this quite easy to do and as not all fly lines have braided loops when you buy them. was wondering does anyone on here ever use this method and what presentation of flies is like. thanks in advance
barry:

Was used a lot when people were to lazy to do a needle knot but as its so simple to put a braided loop on these days I would use them.
Problem with just tying a knot in your fly line is it can snag in your rod eyes when landing fish if used with a longish leader.
Verdict, Dont use it go for a loop.

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will do, was just curious was a bit of a blast from the past
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barry

Have used same method several times as emergency join, when braided loop has split or come off.
Has landed me big seatrout, salmon, and in one memorable occasion, big bonefish!
It works, but is certainly more bulky than modern methods.
regards
bert

That is the same method I used to connect fly line to tippet when I started many years ago.

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Hello All, I've never been able to use the braided loop I just don't like them so I'm old fashioned I found a simple way of attaching a length of nylon to the fly line, simply make a loop with nylon and pass the fly line through it, then pass the nylon through the loop 5 to 6 times, then wet it, and pull it together easy don't tighten it up until you slide it down to the end of your fly line and tighten it there, cut off the waste nylon then make a loop for your leader. then super glue your knots. I've even repaired other anglers lines when they've lost their braided loops with out super glue.


Robbie

Dear Wildloch ,

That was the only sensible way to attach in the olden days when I started with a Kingfisher Silk and a battered Allcock's Splitcane .
Braided loops and needle knots hadn't been invented yet in the mid 50's .

Sewing the core back on itself after stripping the coating and then whipping over came in round about 1964 I reckon and needle knotting on a fixed yard at much the same time.

The braided loop business was basically popularised by friend Burgess from the mid 80's as his initial appalling flylines had no braided core and were based on strands of rather insubstantial gel spun . Nothing other than a braided loop could be made to work on the things and they were unsafe even with an Albright Knot .

And of course the ease of fitting braided loops by shopkeepers unworthy of the name of tackle dealers spread the useage right across fly fishing in very short order.

Oddly I make a fearsome proportion of the braided loops used in this country and the only lines I use them on personally are monocores for light saltwater applications like Snook and Reds - on heavy fish monocores ( ie tarpon ) the Albright Knot hasn't yet let me down though it has to be tied right !

I mainly use stripped , stitched and whipped loops on all sinkers and a fixed yard of 17lb Fl Yellow Stren on floaters.

Best wishes

Steve Parton

Hello Barry

Not sure I am familiar with your join but I am not a fan of braided loops for trout fly fishing.I use furled leaders on majority of my coated lines and join them to the fly line using the Castwell knot.It looks too simple as does the davy knot but it has never gone on me trout/sea trout fishing and it has been well tested.It snugs down very small and no bother through the guides.Maybe I have just been lucky

Best JP

If you mean making a simple knot on the end of the flyline and tying your leader behind it, i often use this. When flyfishing for hucho or for pike, heavier tippets are used and unfortunately some briliant masterminds in tackle industry have decided that 30lb (or 20, 25, 35) core is enough even on heavy flylines. Well that might do for sea or for places where you have lots of room, but if you use something like 0.35mm leader, that is about the top thickness your flyline shall take. Now on some waters, it is a rule to use 0.45 for example for hucho (and with good reason). This simply means one shall be braking braided loops, or pulling them off the flyline together with coating or breaking the flyline itself. And when this happens i use such connection to continue fishing.

I do not use braided loops on anything that is ment to be used with heavy tippets and where flys (streamers) are frequently lost (if you have to break off 10 stremers in a fishing, it means your braided loop/flyline core was pushed to the breaking strain of leader 10times in one fishing). In those cases i make a loop with core of flyline dressed in braided mono. Much more reliable.

BlueOne

Was used a lot before the needle knot was invented!

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