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Old 17-02-2010, 02:19 AM
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A friend of mine uses a greys platinum 10 ft 7 wt. he,s less than average at casting. He will not pay for lessons and not any amount of coaching seems to help him. would i be acurate in saying the platinum is more of a rod for an experianced casters. Please advise him as he,ll be reading the replys. thanks Alan

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Old 17-02-2010, 02:30 AM
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it is a rod for those who get on well with it and its casting action, whether they are experienced or not surely?

Plenty of very good casters do not like very fast rods, and conversely many do not like slower rods. Also will depend on what he is fishing with, for and where? To give a blanket response does not help.

He could do with a lesson just to see where he is going wrong, what rod action best suits his current usage and competence and casting action, or at the very least how to get more or adapt to the rod he has got.

Curious as to why he will not have a lesson, surely he wants to be successful whether he meaures that by casting satisfaction, fish on bank or just enjoyment i would have thought a lesson is the best investment he could make. Far more important that an expensive or non-budget rod IMO
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it is a rod for those who get on well with it and its casting action, whether they are experienced or not surely?

Plenty of very good casters do not like very fast rods, and conversely many do not like slower rods. Also will depend on what he is fishing with, for and where? To give a blanket response does not help.

He could do with a lesson just to see where he is going wrong, what rod action best suits his current usage and competence and casting action, or at the very least how to get more or adapt to the rod he has got.

Curious as to why he will not have a lesson, surely he wants to be successful whether he meaures that by casting satisfaction, fish on bank or just enjoyment i would have thought a lesson is the best investment he could make. Far more important that an expensive or non-budget rod IMO
I totaly agree with you regarding wanting to be better/good i can ,t understand it however i,ve read in the past that some rods are unforgiving as far as i,m aware the platinum falls into that catagory. he fishes still water for rainbows from both boat and bank with wet fly ?

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i was the same with the 9ft5weight plat got one lesson,it made a world of differance to my casting. get a lesson it will make a lot of difference,it can be something realy simple that will make the world of differenve.
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It's one of greys 'performance' rods, and as such, has a faster more unforgiving action, so it will be harder to cast if you're making mistakes. Just tell him he'd be casting further if he bought a rod for £100 and had three lessons, and he would still have £100 left over.
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..... He will not pay for lessons and not any amount of coaching seems to help him.......
Another suggestion would of course to encourage your 'friend' to find some alternative activity that he can demonstrate some natural talent for and that won't require him to make any effort or investment in learning. Darts perhaps ... although that might be a touch 'technical'.
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Good reply Darren, as I was told when doing my exam, a faster rod is nice to have but it will magnify any errors or mistakes in your casting

Cheaper rod and some lessons is the way forward. A better rod does not mean better casting

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Another suggestion would of course to encourage your 'friend' to find some alternative activity that he can demonstrate some natural talent for and that won't require him to make any effort or investment in learning. Darts perhaps ... although that might be a touch 'technical'.
I was thinking of Stamp collecting. Whats the point in starting a sport if you are not going to learn even the basics..
You olso point out no amount of coaching helps, Whos to say that the person teaching him actually knows what he is doing himself .

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Thanks a lot codenamemilo,tigertrout,darren lewis,chris68 for helping without trying to bring him down or belittle him. he does what he does odd as it may seem he loves fishing as much as anyone.
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A friend of mine uses a greys platinum 10 ft 7 wt. he,s less than average at casting. He will not pay for lessons and not any amount of coaching seems to help him. would i be acurate in saying the platinum is more of a rod for an experianced casters. Please advise him as he,ll be reading the replys. thanks Alan
Livingstone is not all that far from Knightswood - and the Glasgow Casting Club sounds like a really sensible alternative to formal lessons - a chance to meet like minded folks, discuss technique and perhaps try out different rods and compare results.
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