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Old 08-02-2010, 12:36 PM
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Default What was the last major breakthrough?

After opinions again folks!, was going to post a similar thought in the New Innovators thread and thought it warranted another question. General opinion is that new innovations are in some way retrospective, maybe, maybe not. What do you think the last really important breakthrough was?
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Old 08-02-2010, 12:50 PM
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Synthetic materials for fly tying. Once the plastics and fabris industry began to produce silk cloth and fibres of artificial materials that closely resembled natural materials the whole world of fly tying and fly fishing was turned on its head.

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Old 08-02-2010, 01:56 PM
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Synthetics have been about years..so hardly a major new break through

Low Stretch Lines (sixth sense range)....although it could be argued that they also have been about for a long time (1980's) but have only recently gained in popularity since the new range

Distance style lines available off the shelf.......40+ range and Rio Outbound etc........not really a new idea though just basically a manufactured shooting head...
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By definition all innovations are new and therefore none can be retrospective.
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Old 08-02-2010, 02:49 PM
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Large arbour reels and flourocarbon line for me.
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It's always tough to say what is really an innovation rather than an improvement. For example, IMO anything to do with a line taper as Rob mentions above is (again, in my opinion) just an improvement.

To me, the real innovation was the plastic or pvc fly line. There was nothing like it before and it forms the basis for every plastic fly line on the market today.

While it's not specifically for fly fishing, I would say that Gore-tex was a hugely important innovation for fly fishing. It's funny to think about how different things were before breathable and waterproof clothing was available. We were clad in a uniform of rubber, neoprene, nylon, and waxed or oiled cotton, wool, and PVC. In thinking back on it, it's hard to convey how much more comfortable clothing is these days. Almost never was there a day back in the bad old days when I would take off my waders and coat and be dry underneath.

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It's always tough to say what is really an innovation rather than an improvement. For example, IMO anything to do with a line taper as Rob mentions above is (again, in my opinion) just an improvement.

To me, the real innovation was the plastic or pvc fly line. There was nothing like it before and it forms the basis for every plastic fly line on the market today.

While it's not specifically for fly fishing, I would say that Gore-tex was a hugely important innovation for fly fishing. It's funny to think about how different things were before breathable and waterproof clothing was available. We were clad in a uniform of rubber, neoprene, nylon, and waxed or oiled cotton, wool, and PVC. In thinking back on it, it's hard to convey how much more comfortable clothing is these days. Almost never was there a day back in the bad old days when I would take off my waders and coat and be dry underneath.

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Grouse , you are spot on re the goretex and wicking materials , spending the day out in febuary 30 or more years ago was a nightmare of woolies waxed cotton ,silk if you could afford it ,and layer after thick layer , retaining sweeat which chilled you , wellington type boots and waders which kept the perspiration in and were non insulating or had padding which made them huge and ungainly .
Spent a chilly day yesterday , a single very thin wixking set of long sleeved uniglo heat top and long jons , breathable trousers , a thin fleece shirt type thin with a thicker fleece on top (that has a wind block and came in at under £20),Breatable chesties over and as no rain that was that ,bar the wool flat hat and the hair un trimmed (keeps the ears warm ).
Had it been raining or snowing a mk II Bloke breathable would have topped it out .
Early doors my hands were a little chilly bar that toasty all day ,so unlike the discomfort of the 70s into the 80s .
Its fuxxed now as a waterproof ,but some time in the 80s I bought a Grenfell with an early goretex analog membrane, cut in a Barbour solway zipper style , still wind proof and ok in showers ,wore it today to keep the wind at bay !
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Carbon fibre rods good pvc lines and copolymer for me with flourocarbon a close second.
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Depends if you mean exclusive to fly fishing. Carbon rods, copolymer and fluorocarbon line spring to mind, but are universal to fishing. Fly fishing wise maybe large arbour reel designs with readily available spare spools, Di7 line, fritz and gold beads spring to mind. Goretex, neoprene, polyester fleece and polarised sunglasses are other non-fishing inventions which have had a huge benefit when applied to fishing.
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