It,s been sorted by the two dealers i bought them from. Gromit and lochside tackle thanks to you both a great service.

once I read ragots post i called the shop i bought it from and they told me it was a lifetime waranty ? Don,t know what to think.
I tried e mailing the uk rep and the e mail keeps coming back as undeliverd. HELP


I spoke to gromit " http://ian-woods.co.uk/ " whom i bought one of the rods from he,s asured me it,s a lifetime waranty. One of the best people you,ll ever deal with. Top notch service before and after sale. I also called the other shop lochside Tackle they also told me don,t worry it,s coverd by a lifetime waranty also good service. Very helpfull with the waranty isue.

Don't break it ... simples.

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Which rod is it you have i have a 10ft CTC that cost £195 and a 10ft HM3 that cost£249 and they both have unconditional lifetime guarantee...

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Scoobs

Something to bear in mind is that most other companies that offer you a 'Lifetime Guarantee' will still charge you a nice wee charge for 'administration' purposes.


£30 currently for Greys going up shortly, I believe to £40 per section!!


Add that up over a 3 or 4 section rod and you have the same price as the rod probably originally cost.


Scierra may, in any event, sell you a replacement section after 2yrs.


Ben

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...if they still make the rod / have sections spare.

Just so you know - the 'Lifetime Guarantee Business' was started over a decade ago by a half smart rogue in the States . As a sales stealing weapon and on the basis that he was buying in cheap Korean Made Rods - fitting a tipring in Florida and then selling on into the American Trade at US prices . In other words buying the things at $15 and selling on at $125 .

He got fingered and bought out in the end but by the time that happened assorted desperate rod makers ( really big ones ) had joined in at horrifying costs and massive losses of profitibility .

Some adults in the Trade refused to play ; Loomis , Shakespeare , Daiwa . Me I wondered how the others would all get out of what they'd committed themselves very shortsightedly to .
Two answers - most of them stopped manufacturing in the expensive West and went to cheap as chips China but kept the prices up . Thus giving them a very large margin to operate the long term implications of damned silly guarantees .
The other way was to start introducing 'Administrative Charges ' which most of them now do and it is most interesting to me how anyone dare demand a £30 charge per section when the entire rod cost less than $15 landed from China in the first place . It is actually profitable business if handled effectively .
It got them off a hook of their own making and kept the beggars in business .

As about the last actual hands on British Rodbuilder the only thing I'd supply you out of here with - carrying a lifetime guarantee - is a coffin - and that assumes you are already dead !

For the rest of it - I and the other honest tackle makers in this country are always sympathetic and we are also bound by the Sale of Goods Act 1973 and its full provisions.

This was a marketing wheeze that went very wrong like the Cheap Airflights do that nearly busted Hoover over a decade ago - and has had desperately serious knock on implications and somewhat spoiled the entire rod trade.

10 years ago the Chinese didn't make flyrods - now they make 90+ percent - and my , aren't there a lot of skilled rodbuilders on the dole in this country and the USA .

Just so's you know

Steve Parton

One is £260 the other £350

Scooby, did you contact Svendson sports,? Customer manager is Jeff Warren, he is usually pretty helpful.
They aren't the fastest dog in the trap so to speak though.
S.

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In 30 years of fairly regular FF I have broken 2 rods, one entirely my own fault, the other just one of those things.

If all the rods I have owned were £30 cheaper with no guarantee I'd have saved a fortune.

Now I mostly buy second hand or wrap my own (for fun, not 'cos I'm cheap) and I keep a decent backup to hand on any outing.

It,s peace of mind when you have a lifetime garantee. All my other rods do 2 of them under £100