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Old 31-12-2009, 04:14 PM
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Saw a topic on classified for furled leaders. Being new to fly fishing, I have not heard of them before.
I know this has probably been talked to death over the years but its New years eve so please humour me.

Are they better than the normal leaders I now use?

I see they are twine twisted so i thought they would have more friction going through the air than the smooth leaders and therefore not shoot as far.
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Old 31-12-2009, 05:02 PM
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There is indeed plenty of discussion here on these! Some people love 'em, some don't...
I started using these last season and would never go back to a 'standard' tapered leader.
I can't really vouch for their usefulness for anything over a 4wt but I found a huge improvement in delicacy and turnover when fishing light.
I would imagine that their aerodynamic characteristics would have very little effect on distance. It's also worth bearing in mind that they are 100% memory free unlike all the mono/poly leaders that I was using.

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Old 31-12-2009, 05:10 PM
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i found the fly catches on the leader, but thats probably due to my casting,so maybe not for someone new to flyfishing
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Old 31-12-2009, 05:37 PM
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I wouldn't recommend them for new fishers. Not because you can't use them. But you will shred them and they are costly. When they start to fray they cause all sorts of problems. If you are not aware they are twisted thread, silk I think, which taper.

However if you are fishing on streams. Then I can't recommend them enough. There is a retailer on here called Spidersplus and he sells Rod Dibbles and they are the best of the two types I have used.

Personally I don't use them on anything heavire than #4. But thats my choice ...... and I am not sure why actually.
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I wouldn't recommend them for new fishers. Not because you can't use them. But you will shred them and they are costly. When they start to fray they cause all sorts of problems. If you are not aware they are twisted thread, silk I think, which taper.

However if you are fishing on streams. Then I can't recommend them enough. There is a retailer on here called Spidersplus and he sells Rod Dibbles and they are the best of the two types I have used.

Personally I don't use them on anything heavire than #4. But thats my choice ...... and I am not sure why actually.
Could you explain to us the diference between the two ?
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I will be trying these in the New Year - any thoughts on colour (grey versus green) and length for stillwater fishing?
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The ideal ones (for me) are the Rod Dibble Stuart Crofts model. Its made with 14/0 uni silk and is incredibly limp... which is what you want. And the tapers really nice on it... if you order one make sure you tell him the wt of your fly line.

for my style I find 18''of 6-8lb and 18'' of fine tippet of 2.5 - 3.4lb finnishes the set up. Takes a little trial and error, but worth the effort

re colours and use on still waters.... not sure.. dont think colour makes any odds.....but on still waters i am not sure if i would use them. prefering to get the fly as far from the fly line as possible.

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I will be trying these in the New Year - any thoughts on colour (grey versus green) and length for stillwater fishing?
I wouldn't bother on stillwater - unless I was concentrating on small venues where sight fishing or stalking and accurate presentation was the order of the day. Generally, depth and fly separation are key to success and I'd find a furled leader a bit restrictive.

For rivers and streams I use either Heron Grey or Primrose Yellow furled leaders.
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Could you explain to us the diference between the two ?
Yes the material. Rod's are made from a lot more supple material and so are easier to turn over with deft flicks etc.
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Been using Rod Dibble 'Stuart Croft' variant for a couple of months now.
Pointed that direction by The Pom - great for small river work.
Knackered my first one last Monday after several trips (well put a knot in it, could still be fished) via snapping a tippet off in a tree and the spring back causing some unlucky knots, got one out but not the other.
Was so cold my legs were packing up wading, so fished off high bank, against my better judgement as a bit daft on a heavy foliaged river.
Still cheaper than say using the expensive short tapered leaders that I used to use and I find altering tippet length for dry, nymphing, NZ style is great, as flexibility abounds.
Last trip was an obvious bottom only scenario, so knotted in a bit of floating wool instead of NZ style,, would have begrudged doing that with a tapered one in the past.'
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