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Old 29-12-2009, 04:47 PM
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Is there any advantage to a line with a welded loop or is it better to cut it and replace with a braided loop?
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Old 29-12-2009, 05:27 PM
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I used a welded loop last season i did not have any problems with it. I could not state wether it,s better or not but you don,t get the capilary action which in time make your tip sink. I,ll watch this post closely to see what the experts say ? what i would sugest if you cut it off is to seal the end of the line with aquasure.

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Old 29-12-2009, 05:45 PM
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Is there any advantage to a line with a welded loop or is it better to cut it and replace with a braided loop?
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try making your own welded loops,i make mine like this guy , it makes a difference to strip some coating off for your loop first like this it goes through the guides better


you can buy the heat gun on ebay , i use a pencil butane one ,cost £4.50 delivered

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Old 29-12-2009, 07:06 PM
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the way shown on ther video is pointless, will still allow the water to seep into the core causing the tip to sink over time. there is a video somewhere on the net that shows how to do it and seal the end. imo there is no advantage over a braided loop in the way shown. If memory serves right, the way to do it with a sealed end is to cut the tip of the line at an accute angle then whip it into a loop, then use the shrink tubing.
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Old 29-12-2009, 07:16 PM
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the way shown on ther video is pointless, will still allow the water to seep into the core causing the tip to sink over time. there is a video somewhere on the net that shows how to do it and seal the end. imo there is no advantage over a braided loop in the way shown. If memory serves right, the way to do it with a sealed end is to cut the tip of the line at an accute angle then whip it into a loop, then use the shrink tubing.


all you do is muclin the end core simples

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Old 29-12-2009, 07:18 PM
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the way shown on ther video is pointless, will still allow the water to seep into the core causing the tip to sink over time. there is a video somewhere on the net that shows how to do it and seal the end. imo there is no advantage over a braided loop in the way shown. If memory serves right, the way to do it with a sealed end is to cut the tip of the line at an accute angle then whip it into a loop, then use the shrink tubing.
I can't be sure but I think that there is a very good chance that this method will seal the ends as it will melt the coating over the core at the exposed ends.
As far as if it's a good idea? If I did use it I would be checking it very reguarly for wear and tear and signs of possible failure. If you've ever lost a fish due to a braided loop failure you'd probably be the same...
To my mind you cant beat the little Romam Moser braided loops fixed with a rubbery glue rather than Superglue. Seals the end of the line and makes for a flexible and durable connection.

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Old 29-12-2009, 07:26 PM
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Andy I agree that the shrink tube will seal around the core, but the core itself will allow water to be drawn in, so again, pointless.

Dorsetdarren, what good would ginking the loop do??
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Old 29-12-2009, 07:41 PM
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Andy I agree that the shrink tube will seal around the core, but the core itself will allow water to be drawn in, so again, pointless.

Dorsetdarren, what good would ginking the loop do??
i meant muclin,this waterproofs the exposed core preventing it taking on water

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the way shown on ther video is pointless, will still allow the water to seep into the core causing the tip to sink over time. there is a video somewhere on the net that shows how to do it and seal the end. imo there is no advantage over a braided loop in the way shown. If memory serves right, the way to do it with a sealed end is to cut the tip of the line at an accute angle then whip it into a loop, then use the shrink tubing.
the shrink tube only protects the line while heating,it does not stay on ,you strip that off after welding it complete
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muscullin will only waterprtoof it temporarily, if you seal the end of the fly line with varnish or superglue then add a normal braided loop it is nearly permanent.
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muscullin will only waterprtoof it temporarily, if you seal the end of the fly line with varnish or superglue then add a normal braided loop it is nearly permanent.
you could also add a dab of superglue just where the core starts to be exposed,thus preventing the core wicking up inside the line,and leaving the loop soft and just dab a bit if muclin on the end, i saw howell morgan muclin his braided loop ,which would also need doing everytime aswell. its just a suggestion which works for me , its not an order for you to have to do it aswell
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