hi guys,

Recently was a firm believer that buzzers static are as close to the perfect meothod for fly fishing.

This season however the number times i only only got one fish versus other anglers moving the flies in a faster figure 8 was quite a lot.

Most other years the static way of fishing normally gets the better results.

I haveing problems speeding up my flies as it my teacher basically had to tell me to put the rod down and watch the line take before being able to move the flies.

Anyone had the same experiances ? Should say early season move the flies faster as a general rule or for 90% of fishing the static meothod should prevail?

buzzers can work at all speeds, even a fast retreive in the surface film, but slow or static will work most often.

increase your retrieval rate until you find how they want it ....and at what depth ...

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Nah!!... just use a float mate!! thats the way forward!!

buzzers i,ve only fished them once, and blanked other people were getting fish ? would it have been down to my method,fairly slow retrieve. Or the buzzers i was using. what is genaraly the best way to fish them ?

Like yourself icejohn I am trying to learn as well.

Try different speeds untill you get it the way they want it.

The worst I seen was one day on Corrib last season the drift was that fast even with the drogue you had to literally strip the buzzers back, but they hammered it. They didn't care much for presentation that day

My two-pennies worth - for what it's worth

Remember though that the faster you are drifting towards your flies, the faster you would have to retireve your line to keep in contact. Hence, even though you may have felt you were retrieving quickly, your flies may have been barely moving.

Certain nymphs, like crunchers, do seem to work better with a faster retrieve than buzzers which work better on a slow F8 to static.


Kind regards

Ben

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You get loads of takes on the drop with buzzers & if you've ever seen the Chironomids in action, you'll notice that they often wiggle to just under the surface film & fall back down towards the bottom again.
The movements vary of course, but you'd very rarely get a midge pupa simply swimming up from the bottom towards the surface & either hanging a couple of feet down or just under the surface film before actually hatching.

Trout do like many different retrieves on any particular day of course, but as a rule if you're fishing imitative patterns & want to fish them in the most imitative style, a buzzer should either be fished static in or on the surface film at the hatching stage, or making the ascent/descent just before the hatching stage, in which case the old long, slow, smooth pull followed by a good wait (20+ seconds) before another pull. The rising/pause/slow descent is very typical of the midge pupa movements prior to getting to the surface film.
Failing that, surprisingly short, sharp jerks of a couple of inches are highly imitative of the lashing motion of the pupa.

The least imitative approaches are a steady retrieve at any pace (especially fast unless there is excessive drift) although this does catch fish!

Treat buzzers like anyother pattern.... there is no real fixed method of fishing 'any fly'... pulled dries... static lures..... 90 miles per hour pulled buzzers as has been many a case at Grafham for me! Mind you... I did have a lure as an attractor and the fish 'did' take on-the-pull and not on the hang!!

As other members have already said.... mix and match! And trust me, if there was only one pattern that I was able to use on any venue.. it would be a buzzer... all year round and on a floating line.... no Bung mind!!

confidence is the key!!!

Very true but on the day there was little or no chance of seeing the take and with everything happening so quickly the fish was on before you knew it, God knows how many I missed.

Excellent Fishing though