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Old 29-11-2009, 01:06 PM
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I remember reading "rainbows are easy to catch" so why is it we read also"Blanked again" "No fish again"?
if they are that easy why do some struggle,even top anglers,

Also rainbow stocking and managing a fishery is easy.

Is this why so many are opening them up and taking over new ones?

Is this why every fishery is packed out every day,because its easy?

Oh I do wish.

Bring on the old story of wild fish are harder to catch,its rubbish.

We are lucky to be able to choose where and when and how we fish and if its all that easy whats the point.

Fine to be an angler and fulfill most anglers dream of having their own fishery,but sorry its another world and experience,without it and having the right advice ,which there is loads out there from people how they would like it,but hands on the pumps is a different story.
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i think you will find its the i don't fish wee waters i only fish big waters brigade that say its too easy i think they forget its stockies they are fishing for too.if i had a pound for the amount of times ive heard i don't fish wee waters there too easy i only fish from boats like its some badge of honouri would be very richsmall waters have there days when its easy and hard same as anywhere else.
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Old 29-11-2009, 02:18 PM
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I seldom fish stocked waters preferring wild fishing and I find wild fish reasonably easy to catch. When I do fish stocked waters now I usually blank I have never been much good at catching rainbows no matter where I fished, big or small lochs, except the 50 acre fishery I helped run as chairman of the fishing club who had the lease. Probably because I was patrolling/fishing it nearly every day and night
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Old 29-11-2009, 02:19 PM
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I remember reading "rainbows are easy to catch" so why is it we read also"Blanked again" "No fish again"?
To be fair you normally hear those comments from new comers who are after a little guidance Kev. Without doubt rainbow are easier to catch than any other game species in the UK IMHO. That doesn't mean they are always easy to catch, but relative to other species easier.
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Fine to be an angler and fulfill most anglers dream of having their own fishery,but sorry its another world and experience,without it and having the right advice ,which there is loads out there from people how they would like it,but hands on the pumps is a different story.
kev,
you feelin the heat or something?
dont let the f**kers get you down.
you are doing what you love, and doing it well.
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Well I am new to fly fishing, I have only fished pools/fisheries and have blanked. I have not had the opportunity to try a river, I look forward to it. But at the moment there is so much to learn that I am happy catching fish any where.

Tomorrow I try for the first time what most of you would class an over stocked pool, but I have no illusions that I will catch huge numbers, 2 would be great! The place has it's own breeding pools and gets restocked every day, it's a swine to get a place, it's always booked solid. We are going on a work days out.

I'll get fish were I can and be greatful, perhaps I'll be more particular whee I go as and when I learn more.

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I think that people state it is easy as some fishery managers fill their fisheries with fish to make it easy for anglers to catch. They don't want people not to catch therfore fill it up to the brim with sometimes cronic looking fish that IMO barely even resemble trout. Then allow them to "fish" with a bung with 3/4 blobs suspended under them until " I'VE GOT MY LIMIT". Before people go of on one I have done the same so i am no better/worse than anybody else. It is only an opinion and i do fish stillwaters and i am not just a "dry fly man"

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Hi', Kevin.
I just wish I could believe all that I hear regarding how easy or how diifficult it is to catch stocked rainbow trout, wild browns, over-wintered stocked rainbows, over-wintered stocked brown trout etc, etc, etc. A long time ago, I learned that it is wrong to say, 'always' and 'never' when talking about wild creature behaviour/reactions to whatever we do to them; and it's wrong to say a blanket easy or hard when referring to fishing for game fish.
Dare I say it? I'll take a risk. Fishing for some coarse species is relatively easy, at times. I am thinking now of little perch, dace, chub in shoals; and that only happens if you can find them.
Anything is easy to do --- IF you know how. I don't think I was behind the door when they gave out brains, but I'm not very computer literate. That is why I am currently having to type up the series on reading rivers in theTrout and Grayling forum. There should be an easier way, copy and paste won't work for me, but I haven't been given a solution to my problem. So episode four of the saga will be punched out tonight on my keyboard.
Often, Kev, but not always, people who have had a good day will have a little brag about it and say it was easy. You don't always hear about their hard times!! Especially if they are relatively experienced. They have a hard day, and they moan about the fishery. If everybody was honest about their results, I feel we'd hear some different tales.
I will concede a point here, fishing is easier for those who get in a lot of fishing. You can lose your touch; I've lost mine, but I don't cry about it, because I feel that I can still help others. Not everyone would agree with that comment. Cheers ,Terry

PS To illustrate my last but one comment, on an awful, rainy day in August, 1975, I had 44 trout on the dry fly while sampling a stretch of the River Eden, on behalf of our club committee, before we bought the fishing rights. I started after lunch,and was home for 6 pm. In September this year, I fished all day on the Clyde with Mark, Robert, Steven and Phil. I rose 19 trout on the dry fly, and landed 2!! It was dead easy in August, 1975. Wink, wink.

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Hiya Bert no im not down at all m8 happy as ever.

Every days a holiday as they say.

just thought a little sunday debate would be good on some things you hear and see.

Most are myths as posters have confirmed really.

Over the years I have seen so many fall over when taking on a fishery and had to deal with the many aspects of it.
If only it was just a case of putting in fish ,would be perfect.Not that I dont enjoy it myself ,i do,its great but its not an easy ride as many think it is.

As far as catching been easy as TC says sometimes it can sometimes it wont be,thats what its all about.
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Old 29-11-2009, 08:07 PM
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I don't see that its possible to generalise by stating that any particular species is easier than another. Circumstances can sometimes make fishing easy though, just as much as they can make it hard. For example: a lot of fish and not enough food to go around makes it easier - could be overstocked carp in a muddy puddle, or could be freshly stocked trout who are still used to having to grab whatever food comes their way and haven't yet realised that can afford to be more selective. If they get a lot of angling pressure they also wise up sooner. Coversely, wild fish can also sometimes be "easy" if they've never been caught before, providing you don't spook them. Then there are those days when everything SEEMS right...but nothing works, and you go home feeling like a total beginner again. Its just a gentle reminder that you're not as smart as you'd like to think you are when it comes to getting one over mother nature! Every now and the she just likes to remind you who's in charge
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