Fly Fishing Forums
Go Back   Fly Fishing Forums > General Fly Fishing Forums > General Fly Fishing Discussion
Forums Register Blogs FAQ Members List Social Groups Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2009, 09:55 AM
Vermontdrifter's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 1,179
Vermontdrifter is on a distinguished road
Default Different Tandem Rig

Just read an article recommending a tandem rig with the nymph tied in front and a streamer as the dropper. The theory being that this will imitate a bait fish following a nymph and will provoke an attack by big browns or rainbows. I'm dubious about the concept but was wondering if anyone out there had ever tried it and what the results were? The same article also suggested using a heavy tungsten beaded nymph to get down fast with an unweighted nymph tied as a dropper as this will then permit dropper to imitate a nymph that has been knocked into the current and is trying to get back down to cover. Now that made more sense to me.

Terry
__________________
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2009, 10:06 AM
3lbgrayling's Avatar
Member

 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Central Scotland
Posts: 17,128
3lbgrayling is a glorious beacon of light3lbgrayling is a glorious beacon of light3lbgrayling is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Quote:
the nymph tied in front and a streamer as the dropper. The theory being that this will imitate a bait fish following a nymph
Surely the streamer on the point and the nymph on the dropper to achieve that result.

Jim
__________________
The Fishermans Friend is the Flirty Fly,Fickle Food for Fleeting Fish.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2009, 10:35 AM
Vermontdrifter's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 1,179
Vermontdrifter is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3lbgrayling View Post
Surely the streamer on the point and the nymph on the dropper to achieve that result.

Jim
Sorry Jim,

My bad but what do you think of the idea?

Terry
__________________
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2009, 10:39 AM
3lbgrayling's Avatar
Member

 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Central Scotland
Posts: 17,128
3lbgrayling is a glorious beacon of light3lbgrayling is a glorious beacon of light3lbgrayling is a glorious beacon of light
Default

I have used this rig,and caught fish,but think that it just looked good to me and I thought that it looked like fish trying to catch fly

Jim
__________________
The Fishermans Friend is the Flirty Fly,Fickle Food for Fleeting Fish.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2009, 10:55 AM
allanw's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: North Wales
Posts: 2,188
allanw is on a distinguished road
Default

If this was what the actual trout was observing ( a Fish following the nymph) then would a Pike Fly on the point attract really big Trout
__________________
Allan
Only dead fish go with the flow.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2009, 11:01 AM
3lbgrayling's Avatar
Member

 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Central Scotland
Posts: 17,128
3lbgrayling is a glorious beacon of light3lbgrayling is a glorious beacon of light3lbgrayling is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Why go to extremes. the americans use big wooly b*ggers as standard(representing minnows/sculpins) on their driftboating trips for trout.

Jim
__________________
The Fishermans Friend is the Flirty Fly,Fickle Food for Fleeting Fish.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2009, 05:47 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: North Pennines
Posts: 2,382
guest3 is on a distinguished road
Default

Hi', Jim and Terry. You beat me to it again, Jim, re the chaser and the chased.
In the UK angling scene, Terry, one of the popular uses of the Booby, when fished on a sunken line, was to present it on the point and have its buoyancy suspend a dropper fly a foot or so off the lake bed. Short pull-and-pause retrieving resulted in the Booby appearing to chase the dropper fly down into the weeds or bottom debris. That was the way in which the solo Booby was supposed to be fished when it was first introduced. Some of the 'duo' method's supporters claimed that it appealed to or provoked the competitive instinct of any fish in the vicinity.
I can't say that I tried that, but I have found that fishing with a larger 'wake' fly on the point, and a smaller muddler on the dropper, can produce pretty impressive bow-waving follows by rainbow trout when they are 'fry bashing' -- and for me, most of the fish were taken on the dropper. It's not a method I have used a lot, as I fish mainly in rivers, but a big, foam minnow on the point has done the attracting bit, while a muddler or an out and out fry pattern has been the real target, on the dropper. TerryC

Last edited by guest3; 04-11-2009 at 05:50 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 05-11-2009, 12:14 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Between the Cairngorms and deep blue sea.
Posts: 291
andy macbog is on a distinguished road
Default

Hi Vermontdrifter,

The same sort of concept is used in sea angling with 'flounder spoons' where you have a spoon above a baited hook and the thinking is effectively the same, that the targeted flatfish sees a wee skitter after a meaty worm and it comes in to take the bait in a fit of jealousy or one-upmanship (if you pardon the apparent anthropomorphism). I usually just go with the worm though as it casts better!

Andy
Reply With Quote
Reply





Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On







All times are GMT. The time now is 08:55 AM.


Loading...
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
2006-2011 Fish&Fly Ltd