I was fishing at a water recently which apparently does not allow the use of actual indicators for fishing.

As i was walking around i got talking to a guy who was pulling them out for fun. His method was to use a Floating Fry on a dropper and had a buzzer on the point. What i want to know to everyone out there is if this is an acceptable way to fly fish as he,s not actually using an indicator or is it a way round the rules but technically is indicator fishing.

Would you fish this way, it was effective, ck.

Use a dry and nymph or buzzer "new zealand style" tied onto the bend of your" dry" if your dry fly is big enough it will float just about any thing

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Its got to be more challenging than just fishing buzzers behind a sight indicator especially at this time of year when the bigger fish are hammering the fry, its totally acceptable targeting two different feeding zones with the added bonus of a take indication on the fry when the buzzer is taken, i would certainly have no problem with using this method, best of both worlds with a bit more skill involved.

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Ok a fry pattern underneath a fry pattern! just remember when you lift into it, could be? that fish you,ve always been looking for! Me? im still looking!

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I've beem known to use a floating fry as an indicator. Sometimes on the point with a couple of buzzers or other naturals on droppers, to keep them really high in the water - washing line style - or sometimes with the floating fry on the top dropper so the buzzers fish a bit deeper. Occasionally, a fish will go for the floating fry itself. Can't see any moral issue with doing that instead of using a bite indicator.

Out of curiosity, what's the rationale for not allowing bite indicators?

I only ever use one fly, I consider myself a fly fisherman have been for a very long time , I might not catch as many as some with all their fancy rigs, but I'm pretty good and get a lot of satisfaction out of what I do, blowing my own trumpet? yes, I probably am, but it's a pretty good tune that comes out the end of it........

Hey, Pete. You would have got on well with one of my old mates, who helped me get into salmon fishing. He died back in 1994, at 72 years old, bless him. He was 13 years older than me, like an older brother, but he was tiny --- but still the boss! He used to scold me for fishing with a dropper fly for salmon. I only did it in warm weather, but he wasn't keen, even tho' I probably caught a third of my summer salmon on the dropper, which was always a size down on the point fly, and of a contrasting colour pattern.
Another old mate wouldn't use more than one dry fly for still water fishing. His theory was that if you put on a second fly you would have four times the number of tangles, if a third was added the chance of a tangle went up nine times -- Ken and Terry's 'Square Law'. Cheers, TerryC

My thoughts, absolutely, I was watching a guy cast the other day, 8 false casts and then when he let go it went about 15 yds, Just wearing out his line and rod rings prematurely, one back cast and keep your fly in the water, that's where the fish are, I don't mind not catching fish, but I usually do, I believe there's more to fishing than just catching fish,time spent untangling one's leader is fishing time wasted, I can't afford to waste energy keeping my line in the air don't need the exercise these days, good way of drying your fly I guess, Cheers Terry
Join the lucky tribe, Laugh and grow old,....Pete.

i have used this method to great sucess(measured by my own modest catch rate!) on both small waters and some larger reservouirs. i would favour the dropper over the new zealand style, only becuase i get paranoid that a trout taking the bouyant fly may be spooked by the leader on the bend or nudge the leader first, pushing the fly away. thats only opinion though but the few times iv tried the NZ i missed fish on the "dry", i dont miss as many with a conventional dropper.
on the multiple fly subject, i recently read an article on the benefits of fishing one fly on waters experiencing a lot of angling pressure. Being a two fly minimum man unless on the dries i had to try it. A monday morning on a "puddle" along the road was to be the test, hammered all weekend the fish clearly ignored my three nymphs edging uniformly back. they had seen it all before!. changed to a 15 foot leader and a single size 12 lime green McPhail nymph and went on to catch 8 fish with the heaviest being approx 9lbs. there were 3 other anglers out doing not very much and when asked i gave away the tactics to baffled looks and some derision. no one tried it!. the proof was in the pudding. oh aye, and i never got one tangle!!

I don't understand people who are sniffy about the use of a dedicated indicator to suspend a wet fly, but who will pretend that using a dry fly for the same purpose is completely different. I can understand people doing it because the dry catches fish, or as in this case doing it to break the spirit of a fishery rule while remaining within the letter, I just don't understand people doing it because they think indicators are "wrong".