I managed to catch a lot of fish on nymphs but only a few fish on dries today but it was hard work.

At the moment I am using a tippet of 5ft of 5lb copoly sometimes with 3ft of 3lb co-poly after that.

These are very rough guesses.

I am still getting a very floppy landing for my fly, and it always hinges to the right of the main looped tapered leader - in fact sometimes it lands very close to it indeed, which cant help obviously.

Naturally I want to get the fly to land in a straight line out from the leader , without flopping.

Any ideas chaps ?

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do you use a double taper or weight forward.

Two things, is your leader hinging where it joins your tipet, quite long tippet you have there?

But definitely sounds like a tracking issue. Your best bet is finding an instructor, they will diagnose and solve your problems better than trying to word everything on here. Do a search in the casting forum though, there lots of good advice that may help you.

Seconded. You will get all sorts of well intentioned advice (both good and bad) from forums.

Alex
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The reasons why your fly isn't turning over, extending properly can be many and varied.

Casting? Yes it could be a tracking issue that causes a hook to be thrown into your cast although if you're right handed the hook would more than likely result in the fly landing to the left.

However, from what you describe it is more likely to be a reflection of the 'physics' of your leader and tippet combined with prevailing wind conditions and the fact that in general dry flies, for their size, are often more wind resistant than nymphs.

As a rule of thumb, a good standard for leader design is 60% Butt, 40% Tippet - which translates into the following recipe for a general use 9ft dry fly leader with a 5X point (courtesy of Global Flyfisher, Leadercalc) -

13" - 0.432mm (05X)
15" - 0.381mm (03X)
15" - 0.330mm (01X)
11" - 0.279mm (0X)
11" - 0.229mm (2X)
11" - 0.203mm (3X)
13" - 0.178mm (4x)
21" - 0.152mm (5X)

You don't say how long your leader is overall but your leader is finishing with 60" or even 86" of very light material which mechanically is tricky to deliver in a straight line in all but benign conditions - unless of course you're fishing a stillwater and have the wind from behind to straighten things out for you.

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I'm interested in the tippet advice from Leadercalc in Lighthouse's response. It seems to involve a lot of knots and I was always told that knots cut down the BS by about a third?

The other problem with knots is that I often see my leader 'sliding' down itself as it turns over ......and it then gets caught up on a knot.

I generally fish a 9' 5X point and am willing to give it a go but wouldn't mind some tips on getting it right.

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Nidd

Are you releasing the line high enough on the forward stroke?

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Sounds like a girl I used to go out with

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You went out with my wife?

You're right about knots but reducing leader strength but by a 1/3 is a touch pessimistic! Your leader is only as good as the weakest knot and so 'disciplined' knot forming - using the appropriate knot, lubrication, slow tightening and not over tightening are the order of the day.

Very few people knot their own tapered leaders these days as we're blessed with some very good tapered leaders that only need a tippet added plus furled and other iterations on the woven theme. However, there are times when commercially available leaders aren't up to the job - perhaps when you need a heavier, beefier butt (queue the wife jokes! ) or a more extreme taper to turn over something the equivalent of a chicken on steroids.

If anyone's interested in experimenting the Globalflyfisher site -

http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/leadercalc/ -

is excellent and the book 'Drag-Free Drift by Joseph A Kissane is excellent too -

http://globalflyfisher.com/reviews/b...ngle.php?id=40

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