Hiya all

I was fishing my local lake again the other day (previous post "frustraing, fickle but fun")with no luck in 5/6 hours using dries/nymphs/wets on floating and intermediate lines (lake is about 6-8feet deep mostly) Again, in one corner where the lake is fed by a stream fish were rising all day with the peak being about 3 to 5pm where several fish would rise in a few minutes and rises would be "splashy", "sippy" and "head and taily" and i could see no evidence of a hatch on the water. AGAIN i tried everything i could think of to get a fish to take my flies but nothing happened until i tied on what i think is a white bodied montana and then suddenly i had 6 takes and 4 fish in about 20mins! The questions that are stumping me are

1. why would the fish be preoccupied with this one fly and ignore all else i "threw" at them....if there was a kitchen sink fly i would have tried that aswell!

2.why could i not tempt any of the rising trout to take a dry fly (i don't think i had any significant presentation problems) but i could get them to take a montana fished almost on the bottom (approx 6feet down)

3. if a hatch was occuring and the white bodied montana was mimicing the rising nymphs then what would the corresponding dry fly be to try as i assume it is this that the fish would be rising to?

thankyou for any help you can give me.....

Hi there, if you get success don't knock it mate - grab it with both hands

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If it was fisherman's curse (caenis) it would have been a tiny white up-winged fly. When they are feeding on this usually the only way to induce a take is to use a white fly, of any description.

Just a thought.

sounds likely stuart, i thought I saw a couple of tiny white things flying around from a distance but thought they were little pieces of fluff from the nearby rushes ...AND when i lost my only white bodied montana on a snag i put on the only other white bodied fly i had which was a white and purpleish baby doll I also caught a fish albeit not a quickly!! Slowly the mystery is unravelling......

thanks pal!!

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in my limited experience a caenis hatch would have been very noticable with thousands of em clouding around you, seldom have i seen just a few. Is it not sometimes the case thet trout pre occupied by a one natural food source can be "switched" to attack something totally different, fish have no hands so if they are curious, into the mouth!

It's simple - stillwater trout are suckers for a white lure.

Cat's whisker, dancer, white montana, call it what you will, first fly to try on a new venue.

Charlie

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find that to be the case too charlie. been fishin a mini cat (b175 12) with straggle fritz body and a wee touch lite brite in the tail for a slight blue "glow"! not the most subtle fly i fish but like you say, almost always a banker especially on tricky days. try this on point and good natural nymph on a dropper, i find the nymph taken on the hang if lure is chased back and refused, sometimes!

Hey 'Bionic Man', did you actually spoon any of them, that may have helped unravell the De Trouty Code?

Jas

Ah!!!!!!! the Caenis.

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