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Old 06-08-2009, 06:02 PM
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Well the attempt to unify anglings seems to be running into trouble. I received the news as an email today that they are making redundancies.

http://www.anglingtrust.net/news.asp...ews&itemid=422

Not sure how many people on the forum are members, but it doesn't seem that most anglers think its worth it? I just wondered are many people on the forum members?

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Old 06-08-2009, 06:06 PM
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i am ,and was a member of the former ACA as it was before angling trust.
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Once again the problem is angler apathy. Plain old fashion apathy! For today I am an angler but tomorrow a golfer, a shooter, a walker, a sailer ect. ect.
Hopes of having everyone who goes fishing signed up to The Angling Trust was always a hope 'Too Far'. You and I may feel strongly enough about our sport to join up but for many others it's a side issue that does'nt make much difference to thier enjoyment of a days fishing.
I keep encouraging mates to sign up but its an up-hill struggle!
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I think that the change of names all the time and frequency of these organisations may have alot to do with it.seems to happen all to often these days in angling organisations,in some cases why not just leave things as they are,like most things though I feel its all political and money orientated and thats only my view.
It seems nothing ever gets done anyway and certainly the everyday angler never sees anything so if they dont know about it and what they actually do they cant join it.
I know some things get done behind the scenes but how does it help us an expalnation of who they are what they do and why we should join it would help us all.Does it apply here in Scotland?
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Does it apply here in Scotland?
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thankyou and it just goes to show that angling trusts and unifying all of them doesnt actually do what they are supposed to and set up for hence why should anglers join it.
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Why we should join...

Does it apply here in Scotland?


Here we go.



I would have thought that a Forum Trade Member and fishery proprietor would have been leading the way on this one.


Forgive me for asking; but doesn't water pollution occur in Scotland? The ACA is, after all, a major part of the Angling Trust.
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i am ,and was a member of the former ACA as it was before angling trust.
Me too. I'm shocked to discover that only 1% of anglers have joined.

Please consider signing up, the Trust needs your support.

Is there anyone out there who can explain to me why they have'nt joined??
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Fish Legal is the former ACA legal service and is available to all clubs in England, Wales and Scotland and is a separate entity to Angling Trust.

Conversely the Angling Trust is not open to clubs based outside England as the governments of Wales and Scotland prefer to deal with their national angling representative bodies. There has also been some discussion about whether English based clubs with substantial fishing in Wales would get any benefit.

There is also some discussion about what "based" means as very few clubs have a physical headquarters and usually work from the Secretary's address. With some clubs this might move from England to Wales and back again depending on who holds the office.

If English clubs want to join Fish Legal which requires a separate subscription, they have to join Angling Trust first, whereas Welsh and Scottish clubs can bypass that and pay a larger sub direct to Fish Legal.

None of this applies until your current subs to the ACA expire, in the case of my club that is this autumn and we'll take a view about what to do at that point.

I haven't joined on a personal basis as being a Welsh angler mostly fishing in Wales the Angling Trust can do nothing for me. I do of course support Fish Legal and wish that I had an effective national body for Welsh anglers to support, unfortunately the FWA is ineffective and their website could have been constructed by a 8 year old, only most 8 year olds would have done it better.
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Fish Legal is the former ACA legal service and is available to all clubs in England, Wales and Scotland and is a separate entity to Angling Trust.

Conversely the Angling Trust is not open to clubs based outside England as the governments of Wales and Scotland prefer to deal with their national angling representative bodies. There has also been some discussion about whether English based clubs with substantial fishing in Wales would get any benefit.

There is also some discussion about what "based" means as very few clubs have a physical headquarters and usually work from the Secretary's address. With some clubs this might move from England to Wales and back again depending on who holds the office.

If English clubs want to join Fish Legal which requires a separate subscription, they have to join Angling Trust first, whereas Welsh and Scottish clubs can bypass that and pay a larger sub direct to Fish Legal.

None of this applies until your current subs to the ACA expire, in the case of my club that is this autumn and we'll take a view about what to do at that point.

I haven't joined on a personal basis as being a Welsh angler mostly fishing in Wales the Angling Trust can do nothing for me. I do of course support Fish Legal and wish that I had an effective national body for Welsh anglers to support, unfortunately the FWA is ineffective and their website could have been constructed by a 8 year old, only most 8 year olds would have done it better.
Very well summed up. thank you.I was just looking at the fish legal signing up leaflet with a view to our club joining ,but it appears that it is only open to Individuals

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