Talking to the guy who ran the fishery i went to on saturday we were talking about the poor quality of the new licence and then he said"i do not know why people who come to fish places like these need a licence"because as a fishery owner he gets no direct benefit from any of the licence fee collected and i can see his point.Do not get me wrong i am quite happy to buy my licence every year because i like to fish the rivers.Just wondered if anybody else has any views on this subject?

I think if you fish private day ticket waters, you should not need an EA licence.

Surely fishery owners benefit in some way from the licence fee. I mean don't the E.A help out in times of flooding, testing water quality if the lakes are stream fed etc. I may be nieve in this. As an aside don't some fisheries have a kind of bulk licence that allows people to fish. A few years ago I took my son to Bibury trout farm, and they operate a simple catch your own trout system. Your given a pole, bit of line with a fly on, jiggle it about, catch trout, dispatch, then pay for it. It was still fishing in the eyes of the law I guess, pretty sure very few people would of had a licence.

Sean

And if you shoot on private ground you shouldn't need a shotgun certificate / game licence and why should I pay for car insurance / life / house insurance because I've never had an accident / never died/ never had my house burn down.

You're not a canoeist are you by any chance?

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What has the rod licence got to do with shot gun certificates, home or life insurance?

im mixed view, i have heard of good things that come from the licence where money gets put back into whatever is needed

but i also think there views on the rod licence are a bit nazi like maybe im still bitter about being pulled on the rod licence issue

( still havent heard anything from the courts and the case was at the start of july)

fisheries should be left to there own devices there running a business if things start going wrong they should have contingencies and not rely on a governing body for assistance. however rivers, rivers should be licenced for all sports not just fishing


as for canoeists, there going to be like cyclists, dont pay road tax dont have to have an MOT dont need insurace to go onto the road and equally a pain in the **** .

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Cant see the relevance to EA licences of Car or house insurance .The Only one that is compulsory is Car Insurance (If you have a car that is ) As for Shotgun Certicates these are surely to show the competence of the gun's owner and the security aspect of wheer the guns are kept .

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If you're on private ground then you wouldn't need the above insurance. Not relevant anyway.

I have no idea how the rod licensing works, but i have to say i agree with Jeltz! That's purely an outsider's viewpoint though...

Hey canoeist and cyclists not paying there way are just like float tubers Only kidding! I bet there's hard feelings in there too

The licence "tax" is a waste of money if you fish a private water - it's money for nothing for the EA.

Even when our stretch of the Derbyshire Derwent was polluted some years ago they did sod all except pump some oxygen into the water - after it was too late.

Re-stocking the river and taking the perps. to court had to be done by the fishing club.

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The Forum is becomming a bit like Flyfisherman with frequent repeats. This subject has been covered several times over the last couple of years. I certainly don't mind paying for my licence as the EA carry out a wide range of services in support of angling. Here in the Westcountry they run introduction to angling days, often in conjunction with local clubs in which some 500 potential anglers (some 200 for flyfishing) per year take part. They advise on habitat enhancement and give grants for improvement, a major recipient being the WTT. They provide advice on water quality and regulate the introduction of fish stocks and prosecute polluters from time to time. They even try to police waters against poaching, particularly the esturies, with very limited staff. I don't think that is bad value for money.

With regard to private fisheries, they get their water from somewhere, often rivers, and discharge it back into the water system. They have been known to remove more water than allowed, particularly during dry spells and also to return polluted water, to the detrement of the river. I guess that you take the view that they are all honest folk who do not need to be regulated or policed. The EA is also where they go for advise when they have disease problems but usually not until theycan no longer keep it quiet. Small Fisheries can if so inclined buy a blanket licence which means that anglers do not require an EA licence.

For the record I have no connection with the EA

Bill
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