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Old 15-07-2009, 07:32 PM
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Are Wooly buggers used often in the UK, and if so what for . ????
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Old 15-07-2009, 07:37 PM
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Now you are just getting perverted Herman; talking about buggering an'all


They dont seem to be massively popular but they are on the top of my list to tie some up to try over here.

Funnily enough, when I first arrived here I was fishing a small stillwater in Surrey and couldnt buy a pull on a cats whisker someone had given me. Stuck on a wooly ****** I had brought over from SA and landed 4 in quick succession.

Must tie up some more


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A good fly which has been around for many years.The black version being the pick of them.Will take all fish and good when tadpoles are about.
Some use them alot,my son in particular.
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Old 15-07-2009, 07:45 PM
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Without being able to quantify this, my sense from past conversations about woolly buggers and their use (or lack thereof) is that they are not nearly as commonly used in the UK as they are in the US, Canada, and other places. I suspect this has something to do with the bias against the use of so-called "lures" and the WB being somehow mistakenly lumped into that category in the UK.

The woolly ****** is an absolute must-have pattern in my opinion, and world-wide I would bet that the woolly ****** rivals the GRHE in terms of the pattern that catches the most fish every year. Honestly, if I had to pick one fly that would be most likely to catch fish anywhere and at any time, I'd pick the WB.

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Funny that.............

You can say buggers and buggering but not ****** ?

Well, ****** me, I am buggered at how that works

Still I will have to tie up some Wooly B&ggers (ha ha, they cant catch me twice)

Used to use them alot in SA; nice and simple to tie for a beginner tyer like me



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My old mate Derek Bennett fished Ladybower Reservoir since it's early days in the 1940's.

I fished with him throughout the 80's and 90's and the only fly/lure he would ever use was a black, or olive, Wooly Bu99er, even at the height of a buzzer or Mayfly hatch... the soft sod!

P.S. Why do they censor the word bu99er - I thought bu99ery was even being promoted/advocated in schools these days?
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Without being able to quantify this, my sense from past conversations about woolly buggers and their use (or lack thereof) is that they are not nearly as commonly used in the UK as they are in the US, Canada, and other places. I suspect this has something to do with the bias against the use of so-called "lures" and the WB being somehow mistakenly lumped into that category in the UK.

The woolly ****** is an absolute must-have pattern in my opinion, and world-wide I would bet that the woolly ****** rivals the GRHE in terms of the pattern that catches the most fish every year. Honestly, if I had to pick one fly that would be most likely to catch fish anywhere and at any time, I'd pick the WB.

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Thank you for that.

I have a buddy who fishes small streams for wild trout. His only fly is an olive WB from # 10 - 16. Unfortunately, for them these Cape Streams also have SM bass and he cleans them up as well. YIPPEEE,

I fish in a different climate zone and for different specie ( i.e. the yellowfish ) as well as in a totally different size of river, although still in SA.
My biggest carp ( 12.5 kg ), Large Mouth Yellow ( 2.9 kg ) Rainbow trout ( 3.2kg ) were all caught on a WB variant, locally called the "Speed Cop ". which is basically a WB with 2 strands of blue flash in the marabou tail, "small" black/green cactus chenille, trimmed , over a lead underwap, body , palmered with a black hackle, and a silver bead.

LOng Live the Wooly ******.
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Thank you for that.

I have a buddy who fishes small streams for wild trout. His only fly is an olive WB from # 10 - 16. Unfortunately, for them these Cape Streams also have SM bass and he cleans them up as well. YIPPEEE,

I fish in a different climate zone and for different specie ( i.e. the yellowfish ) as well as in a totally different size of river, although still in SA.
My biggest carp ( 12.5 kg ), Large Mouth Yellow ( 2.9 kg ) Rainbow trout ( 3.2kg ) were all caught on a WB variant, locally called the "Speed Cop ". which is basically a WB with 2 strands of blue flash in the marabou tail, "small" black/green cactus chenille, trimmed , over a lead underwap, body , palmered with a black hackle, and a silver bead.

LOng Live the Wooly ******.
Olive is a deadly color for WBs and brown is another fantasic color. My favorite go-to team for the streams around here that have rainbows is the brown beadhead WB on the front with a Rainbow Streamer trailing.

I also agree completely, the WB is a great pattern for smallmouth bass. Honestly, there are a whole range of fish the WB will catch, trout, salmon, panfish, bass, etc. I caught a walleye (ie zander) on one once.

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I tie a slight variation on the Woolly ******. I call it the Woolly Vugger and the reason for this is that I tie in a butt of fluorescent lime green wool, a la the famouous Viva fly.

Tying is thus:

Hook: 12 to 4 long shank
Silk: Black

Tie in lead wire and wind in a black chenille body with fluorescent green butt. Tail is a large plume of black marabou.

Wind a hen hackle fron the tail palmerwise ribbing with oval silver tinsel. Tie in a further hen hackle at the head, whip finish and varnish. The addition of jungle cock eyes I think improves the tying.

This thing has caught me lots of trout both brown and rainbow, stacks of small mouth and large mouth bass, tons of sharptooth catfish and a few LM yellowfish.
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Olive is a deadly color for WBs and brown is another fantasic color. My favorite go-to team for the streams around here that have rainbows is the brown beadhead WB on the front with a Rainbow Streamer trailing.

I also agree completely, the WB is a great pattern for smallmouth bass. Honestly, there are a whole range of fish the WB will catch, trout, salmon, panfish, bass, etc. I caught a walleye (ie zander) on one once.

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Thanks Grouse, seen the term 'Zander' on sever occasions (posts) and had no idea what kind of fish that was.

But, back to 'singing the praises' of the WB. Only fly (for steelhead) that I know of that's equally fished 'wet' or 'dry.' Off a sinking line/tip the WB tends to float up and every bit of current will make it move. As a dry, and skated with a riffle hitch ..... WOZZER!
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