Years ago the mention of using barbless hooks sent thoughts through me of more fish lost,untill I started to use them and realised you dont lose any more using barbless than you would with barbed and its down to how you play a fish and you still wont get every fish in ,barbed or debarbed.

I would really like to see all hooks barbless and sooner or later ,believe it will come and it will be better for angling,better fo fish and give angling a better light aswell.

With so much candr these days it has to come,most say you have to debarb if on cand r but how many dont?The fish end up with ripped mouths and it should be a crime trying to yank a barbed hook out of a fish when on cand r .Its not easy to monitor so would be down to hook companies to make them all debarbed and then there is no questions and makes it safer for fish and the sport.

When you read about numbers of fish caught in sessions these days and some comments about how fish are treated it only makes it even more right that all hooks should be barbless.

Make all hooks barbless and sooner the better.

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I actually do believe that I lose more fish using barbless hooks. The numbers of fish I now lose at my C & R water are far greater than the numbers I used to lose at Ladybower Reservoir. They're also a pain in the a$$ when they fall out and through your landing netting.

I would advocate the use of the micro-barb hooks I used for coarse fishing. They do no damage to fish and don't drop out, offering he best of both worlds.

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not as much as a pain in the **** if its a barbed or micro barbed one that drops through your net !!!!


im with moray here barbless only !!!

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The best all round solution is the squeezed down barb which leaves a little blimp which keeps the hook in but is easily removed.

Most so called "barbless" fly hooks are poorly designed and need work. There are better hooks in the barbless eyed coarse range which have incurved points and don't come out.

Have a look at the Kamasan B911 eyed barbless wide gape.

I was of the same opinion as you Tommy a few years ago but not now.Having seen the damage done by so called cand r using "Barbless or debarbed hooks " by anglers the only way and adds a bit more of a challenge is totally barbless hooks.
Believe me one day it will come and I for one will welcome it.

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Yes, I totally agree with this statement, by far the best, all my flies have squeezed down barbs, I seldom use a net, always try to unhook and release in the water.

Sounds like the companies making hooks for fly-fishing are missing a trick then. Let's hope one of them looks in on this thread.

On a recent visit to a mainly c and r day ticket river it was noted that the use of barbless hooks was the rule and yet the flies that they sold in the "shop" were all tied on barbed hooks

the debate is still on going in many course fisheries these days in that barbless hooks actualy cause more damage to the fish than a barbed hook,
it is said that the barbless hook has greater movement when playing fish,this causes a bigger hole in the caught fish,therefor more damage,
a lot of course fisheries are reverting back to micro barbed hooks,
i feel that trout have a far superior mouth to any course fish,especially carp,they are the gun dog of the aquatic world and damage really easy,
myself i have used barbless for 25 years and all my fly hooks are debarbed before use,

paul

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Am I correct, it would appear all the flies you tie for sale are on barbed hooks.....??

I have put this point over to kamasan and I hope they do look at it as I see it as a growing market and the company that does it will have a good market.

Grayling yes they are due to the fact that companies wont sell the barbless for tying on and its then down to the individual to debarb them ,which I do myself on mine.it reflects in no way my feelings on it.
Choice is tie on barbed hooks or none at all.Business Im afraid.

(nice signature by the way)

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