Hi all,

I'm looking for some advice here on how to break this curse.

I have fished both my club water and Thornton and both had massive hatches of Caenis flies in the evening sessions, fish were rising all over the place but it was impossible to get any action. I tried a small white klink which did get turned twice but i couldnt set the hook, i also tried another smaller white dryfly i had in my box which was around a size 20 and got nothing at all.

Is there any patterns which match these little buggers?



This was the best representation of what i seen on both waters.

If anyone can tell me the best way to fish them that would be great as well, i was fishing them static on a 5lb 12ft tapered leader.

Thanks
Tom

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I have found that when the fish are hard on the "curse" the one thing that gets some fish attention is to pull a lure through them,usually all white gets a few follows.The same thing has been happening on my local club water recently and this has been the only thing that has worked for me.

Sometimes the best thing to do is walk away to avoid alot of frustration!

Yes, as shanker stated occasionally you can go the extreme opposite to match the hatch and hopefully you'll pick u a couple of kamikazis

The other method, which I have found the most sucessful, is accurate casting a fimilar size white dry in front of a constantly sipping trout and hopefully his greed will swallow your fly!

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Cheers guys

I did try pulling a size 12 cats passed them as thats my go to fly, and still nowt, they seemed really transfixed by the caenis, there was a guy that got 2 on a hare's ear but even that didnt do the business for me.

i'm going up again tomorrow to try from the boat for a few hours, i will report on the evening rise.

Tom

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Same on our reservoir when there's a caenis hatch or when there's masses of greenfly on the water.

How do you imitate something so small and, even if you could, how or why would the trout seek out your offering out of the thousands on the water?

My answer is to throw a lure at the rises (they won't chase it unless it's dragged right in front of their nose) you might get lucky and catch one or two fish.

I soon get pi$$ed-off with that though, and after flogging away with lures for an hour or so, I know it's time to go home... there's always something better to do

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A couple of small, pale, nymphs fished high in the water, before the hatch gets really under way is worth a go. Then a big minkie stripped past their nose

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I don't know if this will work on still water, but I have quite high success rate with caenis on rivers by using a worn out Double Badger size 12. Teeth have shaved the herl bald so the fly has a thin beige/whitish body with hackle at front and back. I'm pretty sure it gets taken as a raft of spent caenis spinners. Caenis emerges, drift along a short way as the dun, fly off and come back as spinners in amazingly quick time. You have all three stages going on at once, so I concentrate on the fish that are engulfing the little rafts of spent spinners. It works well so frequently I suppose using the bigger fly in this way has almost become a "method".

Dick Walker invented a fly that must work the same way. He called it Lucky Alphonse.

Certainly on rivers caenis present an opportunity to the angler. Still waters? Worth a try probably...

richard

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Hi', I guess Richard's fly works lke the Griffiths Gnat. I understand that was devised to copy bundles of gnats or midges, over in the US. You could make tiny copies of the various caenis species, the biggest of which just about compares with a Small Dark Olive. I think it is C Robusta, but that is an inspired guess, at best. However, fishing a singleton in a hatch of thousands would be like hiding a goosegog in a fruit garden. You would be lucky to have a copy of the smallest species accepted. I'd try Richard's invention, or go home!! TC
PS Thanks for the tip, we're getting a few more caenis now on the Eden system.

Over the last few years I have had a few occasions where I got a few when most seemed to flounder.

Most people focus on dries but in my experience they are usually just subsurface picking up the nymphs

I fish a tiny wee caenis dry on the point and a swisher and richards variant emerger (allowed to sink on a longish dropper) and left static.

Hook - size 18-22 straight shank
Tail - a few strands of gizzle hen
body - I use light hare under fur (have some that is water beige), sometimes rib with fine pearl mylar
wing (tied in behind thorax) - tip of a grizzle cock feather
thorax - as body

Can be handy to fish with a bite indicator...before I get shot down as a hypocrit, its the only time I use them....honest guv

Much the same as Texxa.

Dry sedge size 12/14 on the point and one of these....



Hook : 16/18
Thread : light coloured (any colour realy as I haven't noticed any difference)
Body : White Floss. Start at the head, down the body and back.
Thorax : Any dark herl short in the fibre.

....on the dropper(s). Grease everything up to float except the dropper(s) and nymph, cast out to where the fish are rising and draw the lot back in long slow pulls, pausing between now and then, watching everything for the merest twitch or slashing rise anywhere near your flies and lift the rod. If there is nothing then take up the slack and continue right up to the bank if it is getting dark.

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