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Old 06-06-2009, 08:27 PM
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Just been looking at the Bangour website as may give it a shot soon. However the rules have raised an eyebrow of mine.

All Browns and Golden trout to be returned - surely this being repeated often cannot be good for the fish, especially if they are caught prior to people going onto c&r and therefore not on barbless hooks.

Also, all double figure fish to be released. - Ok same as above but how do you know if it is a double? Does someone appear with a calibrated set of scales with a suitable fish weighing recepticle to get an 'official weight' or are we to carry scales (I personally don't as lost mine but places I fish have scales to weigh in at the end of the day anyway) and weigh the fish in the landing net then deduct net weight?

Anybody got the answers? Just curious.

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Old 06-06-2009, 08:32 PM
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I have no idea, any chance you could pop over to the fishery and ask the manager himself and report back?
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steve reid weighs all fish and photographs them for you, he does everything and misses little, its a top class fishery and his rules have helped keep it this way. His catch and release policy is by far the best in the country in my opinion.
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:45 PM
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I have no idea, any chance you could pop over to the fishery and ask the manager himself and report back?
pointless, hes on the forum anyway
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As soon as someone (or myself) realises they have a golden (which are all doubles)or a double figure rainbow, i immediately go to the angler and assist with the playing and handling, i supply large bag, fine mesh nets that allow the fish plenty of room whilst being unhooked in the water. I also have to hand at all times, a suitable set of scales to weigh the fish in the net.
I understand the hooks may be barbed, in an ideal world this would be differant, but this is a chance i have to accept.
My main priority is the well being of the fish, if i have any doubt if the fish is going to live, or if too much damage is done, the fish is dispatched, if the fish has been overplayed, it is released without any pictures, if the angler has played the fish correctly and the fish is lively enough, then a picture is taken. Things have worked well to date, as we have had several of the doubles caught more than once that showed no signs of illness or stress. Hope this makes things a bit clearer.
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Old 06-06-2009, 11:26 PM
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i dont understand - why waters stock fish ,, they dont want killed

Hope we can get some feed back on this one plz

if i pay for a kill ticket ,, i expect to kill the fish i catch ,, if i dont catch any fish ,, thats a fair 1,, i dont expect to catch every time i fish

You pay for a kill ticket and all you catch are doubles or browns ,, feel hard done by

If you fishing in a club comp and fish are not killed ,, they cant be counted ,, end of

You pay your £££ you take ur fish ,, or not ,, in this case



Bangour ,, is a cracking fishery ,, with quality fish and a very well run water too i might add .. thou our club cant book it due to these rules
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As soon as someone (or myself) realises they have a golden (which are all doubles)or a double figure rainbow, i immediately go to the angler and assist with the playing and handling, i supply large bag, fine mesh nets that allow the fish plenty of room whilst being unhooked in the water. I also have to hand at all times, a suitable set of scales to weigh the fish in the net.
I understand the hooks may be barbed, in an ideal world this would be differant, but this is a chance i have to accept.
My main priority is the well being of the fish, if i have any doubt if the fish is going to live, or if too much damage is done, the fish is dispatched, if the fish has been overplayed, it is released without any pictures, if the angler has played the fish correctly and the fish is lively enough, then a picture is taken. Things have worked well to date, as we have had several of the doubles caught more than once that showed no signs of illness or stress. Hope this makes things a bit clearer.
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Perfect Steven, thanks for the info, exactly what I wanted to know. Hope to see you soon, one thing, best keep that camera to hand - just in case!
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Really dont see the point in having catch and release in this type of fishery. There is little chance of the fish growing on, and no chance of them reproducing. I think there is a danger of making the fish "playthings",playing into the hands of the antis.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:57 AM
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The costs in terms of time, effort and money involved with introducing large double figure fish to a water (especially browns) is large for a fishery manager. It's quite simple, it isn't sustainable. If the number of doubles taken exceeds the number introduced the obvious answer is there won't be any left. For a fishery manager to sustain it he would have to increase fishery tariffs to cover the costs.

Let's be perfectly honest here, doubles aren't any more difficult to catch than a 2 pound fish, it's just that they don't come out as often because there aren't as many in the water as there are 2 pound fish. They certainly aren't better eating - far from it.

We need to look at the big picture here, sustainability.
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:08 AM
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The costs in terms of time, effort and money involved with introducing large double figure fish to a water (especially browns) is large for a fishery manager. It's quite simple, it isn't sustainable. If the number of doubles taken exceeds the number introduced the obvious answer is there won't be any left. For a fishery manager to sustain it he would have to increase fishery tariffs to cover the costs.

Let's be perfectly honest here, doubles aren't any more difficult to catch than a 2 pound fish, it's just that they don't come out as often because there aren't as many in the water as there are 2 pound fish. They certainly aren't better eating - far from it.

We need to look at the big picture here, sustainability.
I agree, everyone likes to catch a big fish. I think I would rather catch a mixed bag of smaller sized fish than the standard "peas in a pod" 2lb stockies with the chance of an odd double thrown in.

I make no criticism of the set up at Bangour.
Perhaps my comments can be looked at as market research. To many places offer the situation I have mentioned above.
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