now i know it is not strictly a fly but it is for some fishing in england i will be doing and thought to give them a try but cant find them.

Basically they are like rapala lures only the size of a pound coin and have a diving lip thing does anyone know where i can find them.

Try the ultra light sections
http://www.baxterangling.com/

Try here, www.sovereignsuperbaits.co.uk under ultralights ().
All the best,
Andy.

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The ones i am thinking of were recently advertised in a booklet that came with Fly fishing and fly tying they are really small for casting from a fly rod.

Found them or sort of them thanks all of you

http://www.sovereignsuperbaits.co.uk...s/hornets.html

if anyone knows of others let me hear from you thanks again

Try Carrilon, they are called "Pesky Lures".

SharkeyP

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