A couple of weeks past I posted this but at the time didn't know how to post a photograph, thanks to you good people, I might have got it now,

Braided loops are the biggest problem with sinking the tips of fly lines, I never use them, I picked up this idea in New Zealand, they all use it there, I push a needle up the core of my fly line about half inch, push it through the side, then turn it round and push it back through the same hole coming out the core at the tip of line, before I pull it right through I thread the thin end of a tapered leader through the eye of the needle, then pull the needle and leader right through the hole, until half inch of leader is showing out of the side of the line, I then put a spot of superglue on to the butt of the leader and gently, very gently, pull it until it vanishes into the fly line, it's perfect, lasts forever, and no loop to jam up in the top ring of your rod, you can even start to false cast while only your leader is out of the tip ring, I've been using this system now for many years and never had a problem with it, if you have any doubts, do one as I have said, wait about 30 minutes then try and pull it apart, it's a fiddling job but well worth the effort, you've nothing to loose, a hell of a lot to gain. HAVE A GO.!!! and let me know how you get on.

Another, handy tool, get a propelling pencil, replace the lead with a needle, you may have to break off the eye, very safe and easy to carry and handy for removing knots in the leader or tippet, I use one as a dubbing needle for my fly tying, 'wouldn't be without it
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Pete
Yippey!!! I've done it!!!!

"Another, handy tool, get a propelling pencil, replace the lead with a needle, you may have to break off the eye, very safe and easy to carry and handy for removing knots in the leader or tippet, I use one as a dubbing needle for my fly tying, 'wouldn't be without it."

The threading of the butt section has been around for quite some time .. the second idea was brand spanking new to me. With proper 'screen credits,' intend to do a cut/paste of your idea to a couple of the PNW fly boards. What makes this a really good idea is it's simple, effective, you won't stab yourself with the sharp point, and it's a genUine 'step up' from those useless buggers they put on the end of 'nippers.' As most of (we call them automatic pencils) use .2mm lead this will require a small enough needle to actually work with light leader material.

Good On You!!!
Fred

nice idea.saw this a number of years ago but never tried it .will give it a go.this will only work with a fly line with a braided core.


jim

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fred the most common lead size is .5mm and you will have no problem getting needles in this size.i been using this for 10yrs.works a treat.jim.

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You could be dead on Jim. Awaiting new glass' (at least a week to go) and a .2 or a .5 on the side of one of these buggers looks the same to me.

I've had a propelling pencil for years that I've never used.

I've just done that conversion and it is a brilliant idea..thanks Grayling. I did have to break the eye off the needle.

Just an after thought, I use Leeda selecta cast, size 1, 22lbs--3lbs 15ft, so as not to have to replace, and thread it through the core of the fly line when it shortens through tying flies on,I wait until the leader shortens to around 12ft I then tie on a Roman Moser ring, tucked half blood knot, Tie my tippets to that, I can tie a dropper on to the same ring if I wish

This method was shown in Todays Flyfisher a while back. I used it for a good while until it gave up on me when striking a take to buzzers - never used it again since then. I think if you re-check the join every couple of months or so you would be ok.

Dougie

Before buggering up your Yard-O-Lead...

Why not just keep a needle or two in the foam inside the flybox lid?

richard

I put a drop of superglue on the knot, never had a problem