I,ve just got 3 taperd leaders which you cut to size strength etc can someone recomend a reliable strong loop.? The ones I know are perfection loop and the figure eight ?

Perfection Loop is best IMHO.

SharkeyP

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Perfection loop for me too. One I tied coped with a big angry salmon recently so no need to change

That,s good for me! Here is a another way to tie the perfection loop, much simpler than the way i was shown..................

figure of eight for me. good knot.

surgeons loop ...


http://animatedknots.com/surgeonsloo...matedknots.com

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only problem with a fig of 8 is it strangles the hell out of the line and creates weakness,and sits at an awkward angle ..

try this way


THE 'NON SLIP' LOOP



Note - this knot has never appeared in any angling publication. Learn to tie it and teach it to the old hands on the lake, they will be well impressed I can assure you.

About 99% of anglers who use loops use the traditional bulky Figure of Eight knot. They fish on blissfully unaware that their chosen knot has severely strangulated, weakened and reduced the breaking strain of the line.



The Non Slip Loop Knot has no such weakness. It is easy to tie, it's not bulky and, most importantly, it does not weaken or strangulate the line. For decades it has been widely used by saltwater sports and big game anglers using very light line to subdue monster tarpon, marlin and other hard fighting turbo powered creatures who rip line off the reel at a rate of knots. They use it because it is the best and strongest loop knot possible to tie when chasing line class records.

Any angler who uses loop knots and is serious about catching big fish should learn to tie this superb knot and dump the notorious figure of eight loop in the bin where it belongs.

Should you doubt how good this knot is take a piece of line and tie a Figure Eight Loop Knot in one end and a Non Slip Loop Knot in the other end. Place a screwdriver, or any other object you can get a good grip on, through each loop and pull each knot against each other. If you have tied them correctly do not be surprised when the line tied with the figure eight knot easily breaks every time, often with minimum pressure.




To tie the Non Slip Loop Knot, form a simple overhand knot but do not pull fully tight. Close knot down to leave small circle large enough to pass a section of line through.

At this stage if swivel is required pass leading line once through eye.

Create a loop by passing leading line back through the top of the open overhand knot to exit below open knot.

Wind four turns of leading line around standing line below open knot.

Pass leading line back through open knot.

Pull on tag end and loop to close open knot. Trim tail to form tag end.




All of these knots are tried tested and trusted by many experienced anglers. Use them with complete confidence for they will not let you down. After tying your knot examine it carefully. Should you be in any doubt scrap it and start again. For the sake of a minute's work why risk losing the fish of a lifetime when it may be your only chance. The old adage 'practice makes perfect' has never been more correct when applied to tying knots

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WHEN YOU LEAVE THE RIVER, TAKE NOTHING, AND LEAVE ONLY FOOTPRINT'S!!!

THA CAN TELL A YORKSHIREMAN ,BUT THA CAN'T TELL HIM MUCH !!

A perfection loop for trout , up to 10wt with Rio SW lines I tie a guides bimini, this makes a stiff joint, loop to loop, also 60lb goes through the guides better with the bimini.
Over 10wt on sinking lines I use a Gudbrod 50lb loop then guides bimini, floaters, then it would be a 6 turn nail knot, well seated.

Overhand loop is fine if tied properly. Most people don't however.

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With pliant rod athwart the pebbled brook,
Silent along the mazy margin stray,
And with fur-wrought fly delude the prey

I've never had problems with a figure of 8 loop.

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