Ok with me just starting i have only been using one fly, however the last time i went i used 2 (yippee) but thinks i made a ******* of tying on the dropper, just seemed to tie itself up around the leader. Anyways looking through a recent mag, i noticed they were tying onto the hook new zealand style, looks a bit more user friendly, what do you reccomend?

stick to conventional 3 turn water knot and droppers.

jim

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of course i know what that is, doh, is that a not tyied into the line or 2 lines tyied??
what about this?
http://www.animatedknots.com/dropper...atedknots.com#

Just add droppers to your main cast/leader/tippet using a three or four turn water knot. See here http://www.fishandfly.co.uk/knots/index.html. Start with one dropper between six and ten inches long about six feet from the point fly and make sure the point fly is the heaviest of the two.

To avoid tangles during casting open up the loop in your cast by using a shorter stroke and a wider arc. Then as you gain confidence you can add additional droppers and experiment with dropper lengths and fly placement.

it is both.

jim

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Rather than attaching an extra length of line to the hook bend ('New Zealand' style) I've had quite a bit of luck/success with using a standard blood knot and leaving 12" or so extra 'tail' (the bit you'd normally snip off). Then attaching a nymph to the end. This way you can fish a wet below a dry which also acts as a good indicator or dare I say it, float, bung style.
It's been particully sucessful on the shallow streams I fish where nymphs can get caught on the bottom if fished singularly. Also it solves the age old dilemma of 'wet or dry?'. You've got both. It also seems to resist tangles better as the nymph being heavier than the dry has a tendancy of straightening the cast on turnover.

Cheers

Andy

on the Rogue use two/three fly systems year around for rive fishing. What we do is tie on the first fly, then tie the leader from THE EYE of that hook down to the next (and so on). What you get is the first (or first two) hooks actually have the hook hanging down like the 'letter J.' Quite effective!

fred/andy i'll give it a wee try when the salmon are co-operating.but not before.

jim

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Spoony,

I used to have the same problem with the droppers, pain in the neck to say the least.

I now use New Zealand style and have done throughout the whole of this season so far.

You obviously know how to do it, I would highly recommend you give it a try and see how you fair. I know some people don't like it as they feel they don't connect with the fish unless it's on the point fly, I have had fish all over the new zealand stye.

thanks for the advice, there are a few options to try thanks.