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Old 01-04-2009, 09:58 AM
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How much difference does a wind knot make to the strength of leader nylon?
eg a figure of eight knot in 4lb nylon.
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At least a 50% reduction in strength.

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Figure of eight? I'm impressed, I can only manage half-hitches!

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I would say it weakens it by a considerable amount and i would always change it, lets face it you would not like a fish of a lifetime to get away because you had a wind knot, would you???
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Not only does a wind knot reduce the strength of the leader when present, it also seems to me that even when you have unpicked the knot, the length of leader material that was wind-knotted may still be permanently weakened. Particularly with high tech materials as opposed to standard mono, and in any material if the knot was tight not loose before you found it. Anyone else experienced this ? So Horses50's "change it..." is good advice.
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Wind knots are a pain in the ****. Reduces leader strength hugely.

Surely they should be called casting knots ... that's what causes them isn't it?
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Not only does a wind knot reduce the strength of the leader when present, it also seems to me that even when you have unpicked the knot, the length of leader material that was wind-knotted may still be permanently weakened. Particularly with high tech materials as opposed to standard mono, and in any material if the knot was tight not loose before you found it. Anyone else experienced this ? So Horses50's "change it..." is good advice.
i can back that up. plus a kinky leader makes me cringe!!!
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Wind knots are a pain in the ****. Reduces leader strength hugely.

Surely they should be called casting knots ... that's what causes them isn't it?
I call them ''bad'' casting knots

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Jim,

I agree ... I seem to get less wind knots as my casting improves ... I still get them but less often these days. After losing a nice grayling to one (too lazy to change the tippet), I check my leader much more regularly now.
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Jim,

I agree ... I seem to get less wind knots as my casting improves ... I still get them but less often these days. After losing a nice grayling to one (too lazy to change the tippet), I check my leader much more regularly now.
i think its a much bigger problem with lighter lines.

i use 8lb leaders for small stillwaters.... but go down to 3lb ones on rivers, and i dare say that a 2lb river brownie puts more stress on a leader than a humungus stocked stillwater fish. if i get small wind knots when im on a stillwater i tend to leave it, ive not had a break off yet.

but on a river i think its well worth the change, especially for those big wild fish you may be lucky enough to hook.
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