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but would these fly be used if there were yours? im planning on really getting into fly this season as i normally do coarse stuff but ive had an urge to get into the fly side for years but learning how to cast right has always been a sticking point

and takes a lot of trial and error or a lot of research. Asking questions here is a good start, then buy yourself a few fly fishing books, and also talk to fellow anglers that you meet bankside. 
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