Would appreciate your thoughts on this one:

Have recently encountered quite bad problems with dropper and main leader twist whilst short line nymphing. I accept that this is sometimes inevitable, but I can't work out why it's suddenly got worse - especially as I tend not to let the nymphs reach more than a couple of feet downstream of me these days before lifting off....

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Interesting (and annoying). I assume you are sticking with the same material or is it a different batch of the same material? And same patterns with the same knots? I am not a physicist but I suspect this is genuinely a complex system and the slightest variation will cause a distortion in the flight path of the fly relative to the leader. The angular momentum change when short lining is I suspect much greater than when casting a distance and therefore may multiply any instability.
Any one got any bright ideas (I suffer from this myself to varying extents and would like to know how to minimise)
GD

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GD,

Material is the same - 0.16mm Stroft. I know Stroft isn't the stiffest (that's why I like it), but I've never really had twizzling problems with it before. Might have a try with fluoro next time out just as an experiment.....

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Will be interested to know the result - I use fluorocarbon most of the time and do have the problem off and on notably with short lining for fishing upstream spiders. Have you switched to larger flies because the air resistance may be a factor?
I have tried using a stiffer specialist wet fly material - Tynex - to solve the problem and it stops the twisting brilliantly. It also appears to stop the catching of the fish - I suspect because it stops the natural movement of the fly - which rather defeats the object!
GD

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Are you using the same nymph pattern? some are more prone to spinning than others. You could also try those tiny silver connector rings as an alternative to straight dropper knots. Also, using those you can shorten the dropper right down if necessary and its easy to tie a new one on without re-tying the whole leader. Odd that it should start happening if nothing's obviously changed though

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You could also try the Hends Rollers.

http://www.czechnymph.com/en/index.p...product_id=568

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There are two main causes of line twist, flies that have a tendency to spin when you pull them and going "out of plane" on your backcast which also causes windknots.

Symetrical flies spin less. If you are using winged flies, the irregular profile of the fly will cause it to spin.

My tuppence worth!

Alex

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