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Old 10-10-2008, 06:17 PM
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I have been following some of the more heated thread's over the last week or two about not being allowed to take certain types of fish from some waters so i have checked out a few fishery websites and have found this to be a fairly common practice and i cant understand why the fishery owners hold brown trout, Golden Trout and Fish the are into double figues with such high reguard surely when they are stocking these fish into there water they are offering these fish up as the star prize as part of the permit

I do hope the reason for this isnt the cost they have to pay for each fish because they make money from the C & R anglers and the ones that take a 3-4-5-6 fish permit and end up having a blank or maybe only catching one or two fish if this is the case why dont they only offer a C & R or a one or two fish permit and the angler can take whatever the first two fish they are lucky enough to catch

Reading some of the replys from Fishery owners to these threads i can fully appreciate the job that they are doing and that it can sometimes be difficult but please stop this practice of allowing only certain fish to be taken by the angler

For me the joy of fishing is that feeling i get as the fish rises and takes my fly having a good strong fight with it then preparing it for the smoker and enjoying it on my plate with a nice glass of wine

Its starting to feel like its ma baw ma park and your not playing unless my team wins
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Old 10-10-2008, 07:54 PM
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Im not ashamed to say i take one for the pot but i dont take everything i catch but as for paying and taking a limit at a fishery i dont see the point in paying for a load of fish you arent going to eat .I have only fished a few and one of them was the North third and i think the limit was 10 fish i caught 2 from the bank as it was a very bright day but i only kept one yet guys were coming out with bags from the boats.Two guy were weighing in at the same time as me and both had bags of around 25lb each they must have been hungry.
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I do hope the reason for this isnt the cost they have to pay for each fish because they make money from the C & R anglers and the ones that take a 3-4-5-6 fish permit and end up having a blank or maybe only catching one or two fish if this is the case why dont they only offer a C & R or a one or two fish permit and the angler can take whatever the first two fish they are lucky enough to catch

Reading some of the replys from Fishery owners to these threads i can fully appreciate the job that they are doing and that it can sometimes be difficult but please stop this practice of allowing only certain fish to be taken by the angler


Its starting to feel like its ma baw ma park and your not playing unless my team wins
Its just as well your not running a fishery you would be struggling big time , what would you do yourself if you paid £3k for a stock of big fish only to see them chapped on the head within the first week for say 50 tickets at £20 . Sums dont add up , just appreciate the fact if the fishery has decent size trout you can catch them and hopefully release them back unharmed . I think you will find most of the boys on here who run a fishery or 2 are doing it mostly for the love of the sport and not big financial gain ..
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Its just as well your not running a fishery you would be struggling big time , what would you do yourself if you paid £3k for a stock of big fish only to see them chapped on the head within the first week for say 50 tickets at £20 . Sums dont add up , just appreciate the fact if the fishery has decent size trout you can catch them and hopefully release them back unharmed . I think you will find most of the boys on here who run a fishery or 2 are doing it mostly for the love of the sport and not big financial gain ..
STEVIE J the last thing i would want to do is run a fishery but putting a big stock of fish into a fishery and then watching as they are all taken out is part of the service that they offer there is always the flip side to this debate that not all anglers catch a fish or indeed there quota so when it comes to this type of buisness you have to accept the good with the bad

But i do take your point on the big fish but how mant times can a fish take a long hard fight and maybe break free a few times with the hooks lodged in them or be landed only for some numbnut to handle them wrong before they sink to the bottom of the water or go belly up
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having a put and take fishery I view like this and this only applies to mine.If I put them in no matter what size then an angler pays his money he can take them withing his limit.Otherwise I wouldnt put them in.As far as browns mine are wild,not stocked and therefore I ask they are returned,fishery rule.my only other main rule is on catch and release being respected and done correctly and if someone is unsure I will happily show them no problems at all.

I have after reading many of the comments also decided to cut the catch tickets and knocked away my 4 fish ticket,due to seeing fish left about and wasted which is not on.If someone does wish 4 fish I will accomadate it as they obviously have a need for them which is fine.

As for competitions I will apply a lower fish to take and then a 2lb bonus weight on any fish returned and the person next to him will sign as a witness of return.This again is to stop uneeded fish being killed and left for the sake of a competition.
Am I going soft in my old age,not really just looking sensibly at present anglers need and want which benefits both fishery and angler and the fish.

I have to say that most of my anglers are excellent(apart from the odd one as mentioned in previous posts)this is in now way a reflection on any them as they respect the fishery and will offer help and flies to anyone and im proud to have such a good lot of anglers like them.

Fisheater having a fishery is a good way of life if your not in it for the money and can make a living.beats slogging your guts doing something you wake up and hate to go to and earn thousands for.But its not easy by a long way but very rewarding for the right reasons.
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Personally i've never seen anyone take a Golden trout, don't know why they would , as these lovely looking fish.
But also heard they dont return well to the water after a catch...is this true?

Has anyone eaten one???

I would also return fish over 5 or 6lb as there just too big to keep and eventually just go to waste....
what the hell would you do with a 16 or 20 pounder????

I'm happy taking a fish of 2-3lbs just perfect for the smoker, but many people just seem happy to KILL fish, with no thought of what there going to do with them.

One guy i know loves the feeling of hitting a trout just above the eyes so he can " Feel the life shake out it! " as he says.......

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This time of year you have to return Browns - as it's outside the fishing season.

Other than that I'm happy to abide by the fishery rules - some places insist on No Return - others are all return...
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For me the joy of fishing is that feeling i get as the fish rises and takes my fly having a good strong fight with it then preparing it for the smoker and enjoying it on my plate with a nice glass of wine

Therein lies the problem my friend. You are looking at your catch as food and not the magnificent creature that it is.There's not to many fly fishermen starving these days so the need to kill a heap of fish is just mad. Alright a few rainbows now and again wont do much harm but not the wild trout. They need all the help we can give them so we can continue to have wild browns to fish for in years to come. As for big stocked fish why would you want to kill them anyway. They taste **** and unless you are having a wedding the half of the fish will end up feeding the cat. Better to take a couple of 2lb fish and let the big guy go. Its all a matter of getting used to releasing fish and then you find its much more enjoyable to give him the chance to fight another day.



One guy i know loves the feeling of hitting a trout just above the eyes so he can " Feel the life shake out it! " as he says.......

As for this guy, They say serial killers start by inflicting cruelty on animals The man has issues!
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One guy i know loves the feeling of hitting a trout just above the eyes so he can " Feel the life shake out it! " as he says.......

chr1st. what a psycho. I wouldnt be spending too much time around a plonker like that.
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As for big stocked fish why would you want to kill them anyway. They taste ****
Having just this last weekend enjoyed a side of a superb 5lb rainbow from Avon Springs fishery, expertly smoked by the Chilbolton smokery, I would have to disagree with the above as an exclusive assertion of fact.

It all depends on 1. How and where the fish has been reared and 2. The quality of the water it comes from.
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