Hi,

My names Cody Burgdorff and I am a member of the USA Youth team for fly fishing. The world championships are going to be held in July on the Allier and Colagne Rivers targeting the Brown trout and Grayling in the river, and we will also be fishing lake Charpal for the Pike, Roach, and Perch. I was wondering if anyone on this forum could give me any advice on fishing this region, or fishing for Grayling and Roach in general as we dont have this species in the US. Thanks for any help in advance!

Thanks,
Cody

Hi Cody;

I'll try and look up some information on these rivers and the lake but have never fished them. There's a lot of advice on this forum concerning greyling and roach, all you have to do is search using the words.

In my opinion the best way to catch greyling in that area in July will be via Czech or French nymphing during the day and it will probably be the same story with the browns as it will be hot. Dries will work best very early in the morning before the day heats up or late in the evening and I'ld make sure to have some beetle patterns in your fly box. Roach will hit on small nymphs or on small dries through the day but once again I'ld put my money on nymphs in July. For dries on greyling and roach go with very small black flies: F-flies, griffith's gnats, Sturdy's fancy, renegades, double badgers, black ants. All tied on size 16 maximum. Greyling seem to have a preference for pink or orange colors on nymphs so you can try with either a solid color or a hot spot.

Take care

Terry

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Hi terry:

Thanks for this information on some of the fly patterns that may be of use for for dries as one of the section on the river is Dry Fly only. Ill go and search the forum about fishing for roach and Grayling. I was thinking that French Nymphing would probably be the best approach as well and its what I am most comfortable doing.

Thanks again,

Cody

My pleasure Cody;

On the dries tie small, 16 should be the largest and you may want to go as low as size 24. For the roach avoid heavily weighted nymphs, in fact using a small renegade as a nymph might be a good idea.

Take care

Terry

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