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Old 01-02-2012, 10:30 AM
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Default Halving a Double Taper Line

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I have purchased a DT3F line and was thinking that as it will be used in streams and the casting is 20 - 30ft max would it be a good idea to half the DT line so I have a spare DT3F line. If they are the same both ends then it should be possible to do. Am I right or am I wrong in my thinking. Can anyone advise me or has anyone done what I am thinking of doing and does it work.
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I have purchased a DT3F line and was thinking that as it will be used in streams and the casting is 20 - 30ft max would it be a good idea to half the DT line so I have a spare DT3F line. If they are the same both ends then it should be possible to do. Am I right or am I wrong in my thinking. Can anyone advise me or has anyone done what I am thinking of doing and does it work.
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Old 01-02-2012, 10:40 AM
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Yes that is true but you still need to fill up your reel with something else. Why not just leave it as it is and then reverse it when it wears out. That is what it was intended for in the first place.
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I recently halved my dt5 to fit on my 2/3 reel. I like a 5 on my rod to load and roll cast a lot easier. I would rather do this I stead of tightly coiling it on a small arbour reel.
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Yes that is true but you still need to fill up your reel with something else. Why not just leave it as it is and then reverse it when it wears out. That is what it was intended for in the first place.
I prefer to halve mine use suitable backing on the reel and store the remaining half in larger loops. Less memory It's a matter of personal choice.............birdsnest
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Many thanks for all the advice. I purchased a DT3F from Orvis this morning as it is the 50% sale £54 line for £27 is a good buy. I didn't want to distroy it until i was certain it was the correct thing to do. I have now cut it in half and placed it on my LA1 reel. So I used 40yds of 20lb orvis Dacron Backing and 45ft of DT3F and it looks fine to me. The other half will be kept safe. I also picked up a LA1 spool today in the 50% sale £69 to £34.50 so I have had a good day. I will still looking for a DT2F for the spool and do the same cut it in half.
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I have purchased a DT3F line and was thinking that as it will be used in streams and the casting is 20 - 30ft max would it be a good idea to half the DT line so I have a spare DT3F line. If they are the same both ends then it should be possible to do. Am I right or am I wrong in my thinking. Can anyone advise me or has anyone done what I am thinking of doing and does it work.
Thanks
Ian
Nothing wrong in your thinking. It is better for the unused half to not be in tight coils on the reel anyway. Simply put the two tips together to find the middle and snip it with a pair of sharp scissors. You can use also a DT like this as a long headed shooting head if you put some tapeworm or other shooting line on the reel between the backing and the fly line. It is a useful line to have with you on a reservoir sometimes for this very reason. This was how I used to eke out the funds when I started fly fishing in the 60's.

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You can make two shooting heads or WF lines from a single DT line, floating or sinking.

I cut them in half and use a loop to loop connection to 50 ft of Cortland 444SL running line. Buy the running line in the diameter you want for your 3 wt. line.

Since the spools of running line are 100 ft., you get two sets of running line from each spool which matches the two sections of DT line. Since the running line can be used used with other wts. of line, once you make the loop connections, you can use it for other shooting heads.

Because you have attached the DT to running line, you can shoot the line just like a wt. forward line and you can carry much more backing on the reel than with a complete DT line. This set up gives you the mending and delicacy of a DT plus the distance casting of a WF. This is what we used to do with all DT lines before WT forward lines were developed.

There are three ways to make a loop at the end of a fly line. I use the first method.

Method 1 - Remove the plastic coating from the end of the line by soaking it for a short time in acetone. Use you fingernail to strip off the plastic. Take the dacron core and loop it back on itself and the still plastic coated section of fly line. Now use a fly tying bobbin holding unwaxed 3-0 nylon thread to whip finish the the loop you have just formed. The whip finish should extend partially over the dacron-dacron section and dacron-plastic section. Then coat the whip finish with pliobond.

You whip finish by holding the formed loop in your left hand between thumb and index finger and the overlapping dacron and fly line section in your right hand the same way. Now hold the nylon fly tying thread between your fingers as well and let the bobbin hang down. Start the bobbin swinging so that it swings around the two pieces of dacron core between your fingers and then continue to *wrap* the dacron with the bobbin which is now spinning around the dacron core. Note that the bobbin must be tight to prevent the centrifugal force from extending the thread. I usually wind the thread several times around one of the bobbin posts before bringing it through the bobbin tube and this prevents the bobbin from feeding thread as you whip finish.

When you have wrapped enough thread to secure the junction, then use some tippet material to form a loop, lay it over the wrapped section, wrap over the tippet loop about 6 times, then cut the thread, put it through the tippet loop, and use the loop to pull the thread underneath the 6 wraps you have just made. Cut off the tag end of the tying thread. You have just whip finished a loop connection. Coat the whip finish. I prefer Pliobond because it is more flexible but you can use Aquaseal if you don't want to buy Pliobond.

Use the two loops connections on each end of the tapered and level line to connect to each other. I have used this method with 2 weight running line and half of a double tapered line to make my own weight forward line without any lost or damaged guides. Make the loops as small as you can so that minimal energy is lost during the cast.

Method 2 - Remove the coating from only the running line. With a needle form a tract through the end of the DT line and out the plastic core. Use a looped piece of tippet to pull the dacron core of the running line through the tract of the DT line. Tie a nail knot using the dacron core of the running line around the DT line. Coat with pliobond.

Method 1 allows you to change out fly line with a loop to loop connection. Method 2 is permanent and is a smoother connection.

Another method of loop formation is shown by Global Flyfisher loop to loop connection.
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Nothing wrong in your thinking. It is better for the unused half to not be in tight coils on the reel anyway. Simply put the two tips together to find the middle and snip it with a pair of sharp scissors. You can use also a DT like this as a long headed shooting head if you put some tapeworm or other shooting line on the reel between the backing and the fly line. It is a useful line to have with you on a reservoir sometimes for this very reason. This was how I used to eke out the funds when I started fly fishing in the 60's.

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Richard did you have a Scottish Grandmother like I had .well remeber using those long long floating heads at Farmoor when it opened ,using the other half on the Kennet ,alaways had the priority ,spend money on the fishing ,rather than the tackle ,though both is nice ,
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